Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-29 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On 2016-07-29 13:10, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On 28.07.2016 23:39, Tomasz Pala wrote: who knows what device would become available at /dev/ipmi0 at next reboot... (unless cleaned in rc.sysinit). This package should be banned, +1 I'm considering C: ipmi-init somewhere, but I'm not sure where to

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-29 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On 28.07.2016 23:39, Tomasz Pala wrote: And take a look at this ipmi.init - it creates static device node (in non-devfs systems) with RANDOM (not permanently assigned in kernel) major! if [ ! -c /dev/ipmi0 ] && [ $RETVAL -eq 0 ]; then major=$(awk '/ ipmidev$/{print $1}' /proc/devices)

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 14:08:35 +0200, Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz wrote: >> Local IPMI handling is *required* for watchdog only, > > ipmievd is another local user. Can be remote as well: -H. As it's more reliable to handle BMC from separate machine than the monitored one. OTOH /dev/watchdog must be

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz
On Thursday 28 of July 2016, Tomasz Pala wrote: > Local IPMI handling is *required* for watchdog only, ipmievd is another local user. -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, arekm / ( maven.pl | pld-linux.org ) ___ pld-devel-en mailing list

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 13:54:05 +0200, Tomasz Pala wrote: >>> as you did not replaced existing "-init" solution with described one, > > One more thing: since apparently it's beyond your comprehension, that And, please don't add S: apache to firefox. You know, local clients, remote servers

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 13:46:23 +0200, Tomasz Pala wrote: >> as you did not replaced existing "-init" solution with described one, One more thing: since apparently it's beyond your comprehension, that Suggests matters only during install time, thus removing it doesn't change anything in

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 13:08:56 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > as you did not replaced existing "-init" solution with described one, This was not a solution, but some nasty unnecessary scripting, duplicating existing function of loading specified modules at system start. > you should not just

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-28 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On 28.07.2016 00:50, Tomasz Pala wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 23:31:36 +0200, Tomasz Pala wrote: >>it's soft dep. soft deps are to inform user of suggested packages > >And this one should not be suggested. This package should be entirely >removed. Similar cleanup was done years ago in

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-27 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 23:31:36 +0200, Tomasz Pala wrote: >> it's soft dep. soft deps are to inform user of suggested packages > > And this one should not be suggested. This package should be entirely > removed. Similar cleanup was done years ago in lm_sensors:

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-27 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 00:26:13 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > it's soft dep. soft deps are to inform user of suggested packages And this one should not be suggested. This package should be entirely removed. > revert your removal. Forget it. -- Tomasz Pala

Re: [packages/ipmitool] do not suggest some crafted script when there are contemporary and generic module loaders

2016-07-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
it's soft dep. soft deps are to inform user of suggested packages revert your removal. On 27.07.2016 22:06, gotar wrote: commit 30c556b20dde02d4520b85755006804f1dcb1aec Author: Tomasz Pala Date: Wed Jul 27 21:06:04 2016 +0200 do not suggest some crafted script