Re: RPM changelog

2006-06-09 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 14:07:36 +0200, Andrzej Krzysztofowicz wrote: If we talk about changelog info in a .spec file it is useful while working without CVS access (eg. server offline) - to have information about changes as complete as possible. Agreed. If we talk about changelog in the rpm

Re: RPM changelog

2006-06-08 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 18:54:23 +0200, Andrzej Krzysztofowicz wrote: So, if we are talking about personal preferences, I prefer no changelog at all than a changelog without the information about the most important changes. Truncated changelog has important information: which release we have

Re: RPM changelog

2006-06-08 Thread Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Tomasz Pala wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 18:54:23 +0200, Andrzej Krzysztofowicz wrote: So, if we are talking about personal preferences, I prefer no changelog at all than a changelog without the information about the most important changes. Truncated changelog

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-28 Thread wrobell
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 20:05 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 15:04, wrobell wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:03 +0200, Marcin Król wrote: how this all relates to subversion repository and claims that you always need complete changelog? But we don't build any

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-28 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Marcin Król wrote: in binary rpm's. why pointless? Few KB more or less per rpm makes no difference for me. [14:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% rpm -qa|wc -l 1423 Assuming every package has 10 KB worth of changelog, then we're talking about 14 MB of almost

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-28 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:42:30PM +0200, Marcin Król wrote: [14:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% rpm -qa|wc -l 1423 So? As I said, that makes no difference _for me_ So? I said it makes difference _for me_. wolf -- Bartek . - O! Jest ten co wypisuje o mnie bzdury. Taudul :

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-28 Thread Marcin Król
So? I said it makes difference _for me_. Please read between lines... It makes no difference for me == I don't care == (you may completly remove changelogs from rpms || you may keep 10MB changelog in each rpm) EOT M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-28 Thread Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
Bartosz Taudul wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:42:30PM +0200, Marcin Król wrote: [14:51 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% rpm -qa|wc -l 1423 So? As I said, that makes no difference _for me_ So? I said it makes difference _for me_. So, if we are talking about personal preferences, I prefer no

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Jan Rekorajski
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: hi i made patch to truncate changelog at build time [1]. the question is how many entries to limit the truncation, and should the truncation setting be different for Ac and Th? At least 3 months worth, preferably half a year. You can't just cut it

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 27 April 2006 11:15, Jan Rekorajski wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: hi i made patch to truncate changelog at build time [1]. the question is how many entries to limit the truncation, and should the truncation setting be different for Ac and Th? At least 3

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread wrobell
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 13:07 +0200, Marcin Król wrote: and if you want complete changelog, you can always use cvsweb. or cvs log at commandline :) how this all relates to subversion repository and claims that you always need complete changelog? wrobell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Marcin Król
how this all relates to subversion repository and claims that you always need complete changelog? But we don't build any rpms from subversion? M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread wrobell
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:03 +0200, Marcin Król wrote: how this all relates to subversion repository and claims that you always need complete changelog? But we don't build any rpms from subversion? but while we were discussing migration to svn it was stated that we really need complete

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Marcin Król
but while we were discussing migration to svn it was stated that we really need complete changelog. always. Wait a second. I got lost. Glen wants to cut changelog in CVS/SVN or in packages at build time? If in specs, then some of them have already been cut manually. If in rpms, isn't it

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 27 April 2006 15:37, Marcin Król wrote: but while we were discussing migration to svn it was stated that we really need complete changelog. always. Wait a second. I got lost. glen wants to cut changelog in CVS/SVN or in packages at build time? If in specs, then some of them have

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Aredridel
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 19:52 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 19:29, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 15:37, Marcin Król wrote: but while we were discussing migration to svn it was stated that we really need complete changelog. always. Wait a

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 27 April 2006 15:04, wrobell wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:03 +0200, Marcin Król wrote: how this all relates to subversion repository and claims that you always need complete changelog? But we don't build any rpms from subversion? but while we were discussing migration

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 27 April 2006 19:29, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 15:37, Marcin Król wrote: but while we were discussing migration to svn it was stated that we really need complete changelog. always. Wait a second. I got lost. glen wants to cut changelog in CVS/SVN or in

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Marcin Król
in binary rpm's. why pointless? Few KB more or less per rpm makes no difference for me. changelog isn't compressed, and some small packages have more in changelog in Small packages usually doesn't have big changelogs. Of course there are exceptions. truncating specfile changelog just to

Re: RPM changelog

2006-04-27 Thread Marcin Król
oh, and this one too. if the changelog is complete, the filelist is 30 pages far away, comparing to on next page I'm using mc if I must browse rpm contents :) M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org

rpm changelog

2006-04-26 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
hi i made patch to truncate changelog at build time [1]. the question is how many entries to limit the truncation, and should the truncation setting be different for Ac and Th? and what macro name to use, currently it's %_buildchangelog [1]

Re: rpm changelog

2006-04-26 Thread Adam Gołębiowski
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:47:07PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: i made patch to truncate changelog at build time [1]. the question is how many entries to limit the truncation, and should the truncation setting be different for Ac and Th? I guess 15-20 entries should be sufficient for both --