Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 17:30:19 +0200, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > what if i don't want systemd, i want legacy sysvinit/rc-scripts > > otherwise it would simply mean i have to pick between broken systems or > no pld upgrades over 1year You have several choices: - do not install systemd at all, keep

Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 19:16:49 +0200, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: >> Just do not install the 'systemd' package and keep using SysVinit and >> rc-scripts. I see no reason to get rid of those, but please keep in mind >> that the more people switch to systemd the less supported >> SysVinit/rc-scripts will

Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On 27.01.2012 18:24, Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 05:30:19PM +0200, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On 27.01.2012 15:26, Jan Rękorajski wrote: Questions? Comments? what if i don't want systemd, i want legacy sysvinit/rc-scripts Just do not install the 'systemd' package and keep using S

Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 05:30:19PM +0200, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > On 27.01.2012 15:26, Jan Rękorajski wrote: > > Questions? Comments? > what if i don't want systemd, i want legacy sysvinit/rc-scripts Just do not install the 'systemd' package and keep using SysVinit and rc-scripts. I see no reason t

Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Artur Wroblewski
On 27 Jan 2012 15:30, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: On 27.01.2012 15:26, Jan R�korajski wrote: > > Questions? Comments? > what if i don't want systemd, i want legacy sysvinit/rc-scripts imho, systemd decision is similar to choosing xorg over old xfree86, texlive over tetex, udev over devf

Re: systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On 27.01.2012 15:26, Jan Rękorajski wrote: Questions? Comments? what if i don't want systemd, i want legacy sysvinit/rc-scripts otherwise it would simply mean i have to pick between broken systems or no pld upgrades over 1year -- glen ___ pld-deve

systemd summary/podsumowanie

2012-01-27 Thread Jan Rękorajski
en: Short summary of systemd discussion, what we should do IMO: - systemd units will go into main package (no more superfluous -systemd rpms) - packages providing systemd units will have R:systemd-units - packages providing systemd units will have a trigger migrating (by enabling new systemd ser