Re: Unclear Firefox situation

2007-09-20 Thread Cezary Krzyzanowski
Dnia 19-09-2007, Śr o godzinie 22:22 +0200, Rafał Cygnarowski napisał(a): quotation If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names Firefox Community Edition or Thunderbird Community Edition to identify this software.

Re: Unclear Firefox situation

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
I think Debian does allow it, but I don't even remember those package names. BTW: iceweasel.spec contains obsolete version of package, with well known security bugs. Those Debian patches seems to simply replace logos and some texts in source. After removing debian specific chunks from patches

BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Cezary Krzyzanowski
Patrys asked me to up evolution spec to 1.12 (corresponding with GNOME 2.20) and I've spotted, that during the GNOME packages update all the BR-s and R-s of gnome packages were upped to 2.20 line. The question is -- Is this necessary? I mean I've looked into evolution's configure.in and it seems

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
So is this some kind of policy, to require newest packages possible at the time of upping spec? It seems so. Its stupid IMO to bump version to highest possible ignoring real requirements. For example many specs from HEAD are building perfectly on Ac after dropping unecessary version

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
It's used to ensure that there are latest packages on the builders. That's the only reason I know. I always thought its RM job to maintain builders. But what do I know... :) M. ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@lists.pld-linux.org

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: It's used to ensure that there are latest packages on the builders. That's the only reason I know. I always thought its RM job to maintain builders. But what do I know... :) Not only RM has rights to send packages to builders. M. --

Re: Unclear Firefox situation

2007-09-20 Thread Rafał Cygnarowski
Dnia czwartek, 20 września 2007, Cezary Krzyzanowski napisał: Dnia 19-09-2007, Śr o godzinie 22:22 +0200, Rafał Cygnarowski napisał(a): quotation If an individual or organization is creating a Community Edition of Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, it must use the names Firefox Community

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Cezary Krzyzanowski
Dnia 20-09-2007, Cz o godzinie 08:57 +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz napisał(a): On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: So is this some kind of policy, to require newest packages possible at the time of upping spec? It seems so. Its stupid IMO to bump version to highest

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
Not only RM has rights to send packages to builders. I don't get it. If someone will send some package it will be automagically upgraded on builders. If such upgrade will fail on deps I'll usually know about it quite soon and will have to fix it manually anyway. If someone will send something

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: The only good thing from bumping version I see is that when upgrade on builders will fail user will be unable to build dependant stuff till I'll fix it. It happens from time to time and this is exactly the problem I was referring to. (and

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
The only good thing from bumping version I see is that when upgrade on builders will fail user will be unable to build dependant stuff till I'll fix it. It happens from time to time and this is exactly the problem I was referring to. (and user can fix the problem himself and resend)

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:33:09AM +0200, Cezary Krzyzanowski wrote: Patrys asked me to up evolution spec to 1.12 (corresponding with GNOME 2.20) and I've spotted, that during the GNOME packages update all the BR-s and R-s of gnome packages were upped to 2.20 line. The question is -- Is this

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: The only good thing from bumping version I see is that when upgrade on builders will fail user will be unable to build dependant stuff till I'll fix it. It happens from time to time and this is exactly the problem I was referring to.

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Marcin Król
User sends request for: libcrap, few seconds later for appX appY. libcrap installes fine on i386 but not i686. appX and appY on i386 rebuilds fine with new libcrap and with old libcrap on i686. Whoops. True, but only difference is that RM will have to delete appX and appY for i686 and user

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Jan Rekorajski
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Jakub Bogusz wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:33:09AM +0200, Cezary Krzyzanowski wrote: Patrys asked me to up evolution spec to 1.12 (corresponding with GNOME 2.20) and I've spotted, that during the GNOME packages update all the BR-s and R-s of gnome packages were

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: User sends request for: libcrap, few seconds later for appX appY. libcrap installes fine on i386 but not i686. appX and appY on i386 rebuilds fine with new libcrap and with old libcrap on i686. Whoops. True, but only difference is that

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 20 September 2007 13:57:50 Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote: On Thursday 20 of September 2007, Marcin Król wrote: User sends request for: libcrap, few seconds later for appX appY. libcrap installes fine on i386 but not i686. appX and appY on i386 rebuilds fine with new libcrap and

Re: BR-s and R-s policy

2007-09-20 Thread Pawel Golaszewski
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Marcin Król wrote: So is this some kind of policy, to require newest packages possible at the time of upping spec? It seems so. no, it's not. It was done sometimes for things like KDE, gnome, etc to force the updates and ensure that libraries will be upgraded. --