PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Patryk Zawadzki
Fedora 11 has declared they only supply an i686 kernel in PAE mode. I'd like to propose the same for PLD Th. Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M chips does not support hardware * 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Pawel Golaszewski
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M chips does not support hardware 3 years is very old? Come on... I have 2 laptops, both are non-PAE... Only the newest one with C2D on board is. Only the Pentium M is problem. Sonoma with

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: Fedora 11 has declared they only supply an i686 kernel in PAE mode. I'd like to propose the same for PLD Th. Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M chips does not support hardware * 4GB is more

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Bartosz Świątek
2009/2/10 Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: Fedora 11 has declared they only supply an i686 kernel in PAE mode. I'd like to propose the same for PLD Th. Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Pawel Golaszewski
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Bartosz Świątek wrote: Fedora 11 has declared they only supply an i686 kernel in PAE mode. I'd like to propose the same for PLD Th. Rationale: * only very old hardware like first Pentium M chips does not support hardware Sorry, can't follow. Only Pentium M

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/10 Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: Fedora 11 has declared they only supply an i686 kernel in PAE mode. I'd like to propose the

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Bartosz Świątek
W dniu 10 lutego 2009 15:59 użytkownik Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org napisał: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/10 Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org wrote: Fedora

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Bartosz Świątek
2009/2/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com: W dniu 10 lutego 2009 15:59 użytkownik Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org napisał: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/10 Patryk Zawadzki pat...@pld-linux.org: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Patryk

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Łukasz Jernaś
2009/2/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com: 2009/2/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com: W dniu 10 lutego 2009 15:59 użytkownik Patryk Zawadzki Again wikipedia: Physical Address Extension (PAE) is a feature of x86 and x86-64 processors that enable the use of more than 4 gigabytes[1] of

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Łukasz Maśko
Dnia wtorek, 10 lutego 2009, Łukasz Jernaś napisał: 2009/2/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com: 2009/2/10 Bartosz Świątek shad...@gmail.com: W dniu 10 lutego 2009 15:59 użytkownik Patryk Zawadzki Again wikipedia: Physical Address Extension (PAE) is a feature of x86 and x86-64

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Marcin Krol
* 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop has 4GB) Yet with PAE single process still won't be able to allocate more than ~3.2 gigs of RAM. So if someone really want to use more than 4 gigs of memory x86_64 is way better choice. * some

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Patryk Zawadzki
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Marcin Krol h...@limanowa.net wrote: * 4GB is more and more common on consumer grade machines (heck, my not-so-now custom made laptop has 4GB) Yet with PAE single process still won't be able to allocate more than ~3.2 gigs of RAM. So if someone really want to

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Bartosz Świątek
2009/2/10 Marcin Krol h...@limanowa.net: * some x86_64 servers are forced to run in 32-bit mode due to proprietary software or some other requirements I'd rather virtualize such systems on x86_64 hosts, but thats just me :) No need to either. x86_64 as we just learned have the ability to

Re: PAE on i686 by default in TH

2009-02-10 Wątek Marcin Krol
Yes, and get to maintain two systems instead of one ;) Not a problem for me :) Why not just build pae kernels like I do in Titanium for i686? Does it have to be kernel instead of kernel-pae? I'm fine with that if there's at least nvidia module available. All additional kernel stuff