Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-08-08 Thread Werner Smekal
Hi Alan, > > I trust your judgement about what seems normal in the Windows > culture, but > in my opinion that culture has to change if free software is ever to > get > anywhere in the Windows world since the "complete" packages are much > larger than the have to be. > > I guess the only way t

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-08-02 Thread Arjen Markus
On 2009-07-24 08:49, Werner Smekal wrote: > Hi Hazen, > > > I'm actually "working" on this and already have something which provides > the basic PLplot package. Adding other stuff gets then more and more > "problematic". On one side is the size a problem. Putting QT and > wxWidgets library int

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-28 Thread James Dishaw
Hazen Babcock wrote: > I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along > with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can > put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo(?), etc... so > I'm volunteering myself to generate whatever binarie

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-26 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2009-07-26 10:10+0200 Werner Smekal wrote: > Hi Alan, >> >> Hazen, I would advise avoiding all that pain by sticking with just >> distributing a binary version of PLplot without the external dependencies. > > Nope, not a good idea. Although most dlls are loaded on demand (with the > driver dl

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-26 Thread Werner Smekal
Hi Alan, > > Hazen, I would advise avoiding all that pain by sticking with just > distributing a binary version of PLplot without the external > dependencies. Nope, not a good idea. Although most dlls are loaded on demand (with the driver dll) it's just not the way a Windows user wants to have

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2009-07-25 13:15-0700 Alan W. Irwin wrote: > I wonder if this factor of 10 size difference between the two 64-bit > versions on my machine is due to the system one being stripped and > the downloaded one not being stripped? As an experiment I tried the following: ir...@raven> strip -o /tmp/gu

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2009-07-25 20:14+0100 Steve Schwartz wrote: > Hi Alan, > >> Here are the sizes of those four libraries (as given by ls -lh). >> >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 software software 20M 2009-04-23 09:34 libQtCore.so.4.5.1 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 software software 95M 2009-04-23 09:34 libQtGui.so.4.5.1 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 so

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Steve Schwartz
Hi Alan, > Here are the sizes of those four libraries (as given by ls -lh). > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 software software 20M 2009-04-23 09:34 libQtCore.so.4.5.1 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 software software 95M 2009-04-23 09:34 libQtGui.so.4.5.1 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 software software 3.9M 2009-04-23 09:34 libQtSvg.so.4.5.1

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Alan W. Irwin
Hi Steve: The first part of this responds to your suggestion, but I also have a response to Werner's suggestion at the end. On 2009-07-25 12:02+0100 Steve Schwartz wrote: > I think I saw a comment under this thread that shipping the Qt libraries > to make a self-contained windows installation wo

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Steve Schwartz
I think I saw a comment under this thread that shipping the Qt libraries to make a self-contained windows installation would be excessively large (350 MB from my memory). This probably is far more than is necessary simply to use the qt devices. We ship binaries of our QSAS application for windows w

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Werner Smekal
>> Hi Hazen, >> zip all of them are easy to install. > > My preference would be some sort of pre-compiled binary, basically a > zip of c:\program files\plplot, which I think is what Alan was > discussing with cpack. Someone who already knows that they want to > use PLplot is probably willin

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-25 Thread Werner Smekal
Hi Hazen, > I was thinking of just providing the relevant PLplot dlls for working > with Qt, etc, rather than actually including Qt, etc, in our > distribution. I don't think this is totally orthogonal to typical > Windows style as programs like PyQt do not come with Python. The user > would be re

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-24 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2009-07-24 15:25-0400 Hazen Babcock wrote: > Alan W. Irwin wrote: >> Also note that my new CMake-based build system for the installed examples >> _should_ work on Windows (unlike the traditional Makefile+pkg-config >> approach) so it should be quite useful for Windows users of your planned >> b

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-24 Thread Hazen Babcock
Alan W. Irwin wrote: > On 2009-07-23 20:06-0400 Hazen Babcock wrote: > >> >> I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along >> with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can >> put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo(?), etc... so

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-24 Thread Hazen Babcock
Werner Smekal wrote: > Hi Hazen, > > On 24.07.2009, at 02:06, Hazen Babcock wrote: > >> >> I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along >> with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can >> put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-24 Thread Alan W. Irwin
On 2009-07-23 20:06-0400 Hazen Babcock wrote: > > I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along > with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can > put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo(?), etc... so > I'm volunteering myself to

Re: [Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-23 Thread Werner Smekal
Hi Hazen, On 24.07.2009, at 02:06, Hazen Babcock wrote: I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo(?), etc... so I'm volunteering m

[Plplot-devel] windows binaries and/or installer

2009-07-23 Thread Hazen Babcock
I'd like to start offering a Windows binary and/or an installer along with our source releases. I now have access to a Windows box which I can put pretty much anything on to, i.e. Qt, WxWidgets, Cairo(?), etc... so I'm volunteering myself to generate whatever binaries needs to be generated to