Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 09:30 +0800, JM Ibanez wrote: > On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Business-wise, it's even better to invest on non-free software to offer > > the most familiar and most "user friendly" (not to mention popular) > > software titles out there. And

Re: [plug] SCSI

2005-06-23 Thread cj pangilinan
have you tried in computer stores in gilmore? wla b sa pcx o villman? On 6/24/05, Aris Santillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > where can i buy SCSI cables? > _ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > plug@lists.linux.org.ph (#PL

Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread jtiongson
Dear All, More than five years ago I installed for one College in Laguna Redhat 6.2 for their computer laboratory and I am glad that up to now they are still using the operating system. Yup, more than five years without reinstallation. They were able to save enough money (on windows reinstallat

[plug] SCSI

2005-06-23 Thread Aris Santillan
Title: SCSI where can i buy SCSI cables? _ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List plug@lists.linux.org.ph (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

Re: On the virtues of Ratpoison and IonWM (Was [plug] Re: Command line and WMs)

2005-06-23 Thread Clair Ching
On 6/24/05, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Another: ion[1]. > > Gah. I have never tried screen nor Ion (though Zak has been telling me > > its goodness). > > > I love Ion as well, I use it everyday if I want a quickie > *grin*...plus that it supports the mouse (or the touchpa

Re: On the virtues of Ratpoison and IonWM (Was [plug] Re: Command line and WMs)

2005-06-23 Thread Jerome Gotangco
> > > Another: ion[1]. > > > > Personally, I like the ultra-configurability and flexibility of ion-- > > but also dislike its ultra-configurability and flexibility. ;) Too > > many keybindings to remember, IMHO, and that interfers with my recall > > of Emacs keybindings. OTOH, ratpoison is quite si

Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread Clair Ching
On 6/24/05, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > computer shop that doesn't offer computer games. It can be shown that in > > urban areas, computer shops are easily substituted for gaming arcades -- > > in that almost all the peopl

Re: On the virtues of Ratpoison and IonWM (Was [plug] Re: Command line and WMs)

2005-06-23 Thread Clair Ching
On 6/24/05, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/23/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > One word: ratpoison. > > > > Another: ion[1]. > > Personally, I like the ultra-configurability and flexibility of ion-- > but also dislike its u

[plug] madm questions

2005-06-23 Thread plug bert
Hello All, i'm about to start some experiments with madm, but i need to ask: is a raid5 array accessible when in degraded mode, or in the process of rebuilding/regenerating(from my readings the answer would seem to be yes)?. Is this behavior standard, or does it depend on the particular raid t

[plug] RealBasic (WAS: Migrating from Windows)

2005-06-23 Thread Ariz Jacinto
we're using/evaluating realbasic in our production and it really can help migrating those VB6 applications to Linux, OS9/X & XP since VB6 developers can easily adapt to its IDE. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also the cost of rewriting any customized applications particularly those written

Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread JM Ibanez
On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No problems with running Linux on cafe computers -- however, it's the > customers' clamor for something familiar and the latest and greatest > games. Majority of your target market would want to play games when they > enter the computer s

Re: [plug] Re: Command line and WMs

2005-06-23 Thread Norbert P. Copones
Zak B. Elep said: > JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> One word: ratpoison. > > Another: ion[1]. > > If you're the type who believes in the notion of a computer desktop > being an instrumentation panel, and loves xterms *seriously*, then > there's no beating CLI-friendly WMs like ones the a

On the virtues of Ratpoison and IonWM (Was [plug] Re: Command line and WMs)

2005-06-23 Thread JM Ibanez
On 6/23/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > One word: ratpoison. > > Another: ion[1]. Personally, I like the ultra-configurability and flexibility of ion-- but also dislike its ultra-configurability and flexibility. ;) Too many keybindings to

Re: [plug] Command line

2005-06-23 Thread eric pareja
Noong Huw, Hun 23, 2005 ng 07:00:04PM +0800, sinabi ni Dong Calmada: > On 6/23/05, Manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I play my OGG Vorbis files straight off the command line with ogg123! > > Although I use the XFce GUI, I simply open up a tabbed mrxvt window and > > type away. The only real G

Re: [plug] Migrating from Windows

2005-06-23 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 12:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's also the cost of rewriting any customized applications particularly > those written originally in VB. Speaking of which, I found a porting guide > but, not really having enough interest to go over it, I can't tell how much > work

Re: [plug] Migrating from Windows

2005-06-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's also the cost of rewriting any customized applications particularly those written originally in VB. Speaking of which, I found a porting guide but, not really having enough interest to go over it, I can't tell how much work it'll take. http://www.realsoftware.com/support/whitepapers/porting

Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 21:52 +0800, Zak B. Elep wrote: > Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > OTOH I believe that Linux TCO really WOULD be higher than Windows for > > shops which are pure Windows to start with. Re-training is expensive, > > and Windows licenses CAN be cheap, depending

[plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread Zak B. Elep
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OTOH I believe that Linux TCO really WOULD be higher than Windows for > shops which are pure Windows to start with. Re-training is expensive, > and Windows licenses CAN be cheap, depending on how much pull you > have... Indeed. So I guess trying to ge

[plug] Re: Command line and WMs

2005-06-23 Thread Zak B. Elep
JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One word: ratpoison. Another: ion[1]. If you're the type who believes in the notion of a computer desktop being an instrumentation panel, and loves xterms *seriously*, then there's no beating CLI-friendly WMs like ones the above, as well as others like ice

Re: [plug] modem on thinkpad R50e running linux

2005-06-23 Thread jerome figueroa
Thanks! will try wvdial. On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 18:13 +0800, jerome figueroa wrote: > > Thanks! > > Nobody's helped you yet, so I'll try. :D > > > > > I saw some links in the internet wherein they say they've been able to > > make some

Re: [plug] modem on thinkpad R50e running linux

2005-06-23 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 18:13 +0800, jerome figueroa wrote: > Thanks! Nobody's helped you yet, so I'll try. :D > > I saw some links in the internet wherein they say they've been able to > make some internal modems work using the smartlink drivers. But then > again, it's the internet so it could be

Re: [plug] Re: Is Linux For Losers?

2005-06-23 Thread Dean Michael Berris
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 01:44 +0800, Sacha Chua wrote: > Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Let's say someone actually believes that Linux is for Losers. Would > > you accept someone who idolizes some BSD guy call you a loser when > > he sees you hacking on something really import

RE: [plug] Is Linux For Losers?

2005-06-23 Thread JC de Villa
Just to get the pot boiling a little more, heres the same interview, but with Matt Dillon of DragonFly BSD on the hotseat instead.   Take a gander and share your thoughts.   http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2005-06/msg00076.html   about matt:   http://apollo.backplane

Re: [plug] Command line

2005-06-23 Thread Dong Calmada
On 6/23/05, Manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I play my OGG Vorbis files straight off the command line with ogg123! > Although I use the XFce GUI, I simply open up a tabbed mrxvt window and > type away. The only real GUI apps I use often are Mozilla, OpenOffice, > Gimp, GQView, and gtk-gnutella.

Re: [plug] Is Linux For Losers?

2005-06-23 Thread Kutch Villasor
Ey Jerome I'm not the one who started it. Eric Draven sent the first amunition in publict w/c insults me and as well on my private So binalik ko lang pagiging idiotic thing ni Eric D. eh ika nga kung ayaw mo manyari sa iyo wag mo gawin sa kapwa po. Transparent lang kase ako...   > [Just to expr

Re: [plug] OS Bashing (from Is Linux for Losers)

2005-06-23 Thread Orlando Andico
On 6/23/05, Manny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > Just take a look at the latest copy of Computerworld Philippines. > Micro$oft took out a full-page ad where they cite the Yankee Group study, > claiming that switching to Linux results in a higher TCO. What garbage. > > Looks like their FUD campaig

Re: [plug] modem on thinkpad R50e running linux

2005-06-23 Thread jerome figueroa
Thanks! I saw some links in the internet wherein they say they've been able to make some internal modems work using the smartlink drivers. But then again, it's the internet so it could be anything :-) http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/IBM_Integrated_56K_Modem_(MDC-2)gave me hope :-) The smartlink

[plug] Command line

2005-06-23 Thread Manny
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Dong Calmada wrote: I love Linux's CLI. With *icewm*, for instance, I just press the _Win+Spacebar_ combo and am ready to issue commands like playing my favorite mp3 playlist. I play my OGG Vorbis files straight off the command line with ogg123! Although I use the XFce GU