Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread John Jason Jordan
Thanks to all who responded, especially Tim. The wikipedia link was very helpful and informative. On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:06:40 -0700 Aaron Burt dijo: >> Once Tiffany and I came to the conclusion that the order was bogus >> Tiffany quickly canceled it. And upon hanging up the phone I >> immediate

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Nathan Williams
This is true, and something to plan for. It's also why lots of merchants are switching to zero dollar auth checks, though this also comes w/ headaches, as not all card issuers support it, and may decline zero dollar auths even if funds are available. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Aug 18, 2010 1

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce
On 08/18/2010 09:59 AM, nat...@nathanewilliams.com wrote: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:45:27 -0700, Pete Lancashire > wrote: > >> One thing I do is I keep only a "small" amount in the account I do any >> Debit Card >> transactions with. Most of the time it only has $300-400 in it. It is >> a hassle

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce
On 08/18/2010 07:59 AM, Tim wrote: > >>> And a repeat of the standard: buy only from known and trusted >>> >> There are millions of web merchants. I can't know them all. How can I >> tell if a site is trusted? >> > You can't. Even if a merchant is trusted, the employees may not

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron Burt
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 08:41:38PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I have also used this debit account to buy other things for my printing > business, including computer parts. I even used the account to pay > tuition at PSU. Many of these transactions have been on the net, and > many others hav

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread nathan
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:45:27 -0700, Pete Lancashire wrote: > One thing I do is I keep only a "small" amount in the account I do any > Debit Card > transactions with. Most of the time it only has $300-400 in it. It is > a hassle but > I look at it as a sacrificial line of defense. > > -pete > >

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Pete Lancashire
One thing I do is I keep only a "small" amount in the account I do any Debit Card transactions with. Most of the time it only has $300-400 in it. It is a hassle but I look at it as a sacrificial line of defense. -pete On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Wayne E. Van Loon Sr. wrote: > Fred James wro

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread nathan
> Yet, I constantly buy stuff online. How do I feel safe? Credit laws. > See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card_fraud#Cardholder_liability tim, thanks for that link, there's some good information in that article. I deal with fraud claims a lot at work, and this will definitely be a

Re: [PLUG] Smarter grub...

2010-08-18 Thread Michael C. Robinson
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Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread wes
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Wayne E. Van Loon Sr. wrote: > Fred James wrote: > > John Jason Jordan wrote: > > (omissions for brevity) > > > >> ... assume you are talking to an > >> idiot. > >> > >> > > John Jason Jordan > > No, I shan't assume that ... the usual cautions about eBay and PayPal

[PLUG] Smarter grub...

2010-08-18 Thread Michael C. Robinson
Grub usually has something like: (hd0,0) in the grub.conf file. I want to replace this with a reference that is always correct regardless of whether or not I plug in another hard drive or change the ordering of hard drives. Is this possible? ___ PLUG

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread wes
I don't know about yours, but with my online banking access, I am hard-pressed to find any information in there that could actually be used to take money from me. I cannot initiate any transfers out of accounts I own without lengthy verification processes, all of which generate notifications to me

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Wayne E. Van Loon Sr.
Fred James wrote: > John Jason Jordan wrote: > (omissions for brevity) > >> ... assume you are talking to an >> idiot. >> >> > John Jason Jordan > No, I shan't assume that ... the usual cautions about eBay and PayPal > apply, of course ... they have proved over the years to be somewhat

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Michael C. Robinson
> Capitalism is at core a very mean and > competitive world view. That isn't a criticism ... it is just better to > see what is. Capitalism only works when people are altruistic. Socialism and communism fail when people are not self centered enough. There is indeed an ethical theory that elev

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Michael C. Robinson
I don't know how effective this is, but my Paypal account is connected to a disposable checking account which I keep essentially empty. I have other accounts that are not connected to Paypal and never should be. I never do debit transactions online. Stick with Paypal accepting merchants, Paypa

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Fred James
John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:20:11 -0500 > Fred James dijo: > > >> And a repeat of the standard: buy only from known and trusted >> > > There are millions of web merchants. I can't know them all. How can I > tell if a site is trusted? > John Jason Jordan That woul

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Tim
> >And a repeat of the standard: buy only from known and trusted > > There are millions of web merchants. I can't know them all. How can I > tell if a site is trusted? You can't. Even if a merchant is trusted, the employees may not be trustworthy or their database could get broken into and ha

Re: [PLUG] PLUG AT CANCELED FOR WANT OF A VENUE AND SPEAKER

2010-08-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Michael" == Michael Dexter writes: Michael> Enjoy the sun! Maybe we can hold the PLUG meeting on the surface of the sun. I think it'd be a few degrees cooler than here. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/

Re: [PLUG] Financial security on the net

2010-08-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Like, is there a short list of signs that a site is safe that I can use > without having to earn a degree in web security systems? As always when > responding to my questions, assume you are talking to an idiot. John, Whenever the connection bet