Re: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi to buy/borrow?

2014-08-05 Thread Russell Senior
Dan == Dan Pape dp...@dpape.com writes: Dan Hi List, I'm participating in an internal corporate hackathon Dan this wednesday/thursday. I was planning to use a Pi plus Pi Dan camera that I bought from element14 last wednesday, but two day Dan shipping apparently doesn't mean much because I just

Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Dick Steffens
On 08/04/2014 10:13 PM, Robert Citek wrote: FWIW, I ran this on my 12.04 LTS server system: $ sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty $ sudo reboot Now the message Your current Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is going out of support on 2014-08-07. ...

[PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:31:57AM -0700, Dick Steffens wrote: It's not just the Ubuntu folks, though. The version of Libre Office that comes with 14 changes some things that my fingers learned how to do. ... There were other little annoyances I've now forgotten, but it was enough to make

Re: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi to buy/borrow?

2014-08-05 Thread Steve Dum
Check out Oregon-electronics 503-644-1025 the norvac reincarnation Their website http://www.oregon-electronics.com/x/home.php?cat=250 seems to indicate they have the b+ and camera modules. steve ** Russell Senior wrote: Dan == Dan Pape dp...@dpape.com writes: Dan Hi List, I'm participating in

Re: [PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Ronald Chmara
Nice rant. Unfortunately, the self-indulgent, change-hypnotized, aspergers-crippled, new-hardware junkies are the ones *trying* to make things so users can express their needs and desires in everyday, sloppy, inprecise human language, and have those desires translate automatically into an

Re: [PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:45:51AM -0700, Ronald Chmara wrote: Nice rant. Unfortunately, the self-indulgent, change-hypnotized, aspergers-crippled, new-hardware junkies are the ones *trying* to make things so users can express their needs and desires in everyday, sloppy, inprecise human

Re: [PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Ronald Chmara
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Keith Lofstrom kei...@gate.kl-ic.com wrote: In the real world, not the software one, vast change occurs behind standardized interfaces. When I plug in a toaster, it works, regardless of whether the power comes from California or British Columbia, coal plant

Re: [PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread David Fleck
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 10:18 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: RANT F/OSS software won't be truly libre until we wrest control of part of the development space away from the self-indulgent, change- hypnotized, aspergers-crippled, new-hardware junkies who dominate most of the common distros. What

Re: [PLUG] a RANT, was Re: Ubuntu Long Term Support?

2014-08-05 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, David Fleck wrote: (still trying to figure out WTF the plasma desktop adds to KDE after all these years) Marketing hype? Obfuscation that impresses those who don't know enough to question? In the early 1970s the University of Illinois' PLATO computer network