Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > "Denis" == Denis Heidtmann writes: > > Denis> This is a recent install, so I expect that there may not be many > Denis> kernels. How do I see what older kernels I have? > > I use aptitude for package management. Look for packages n

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Tom
To see the real truth run these two commands: awk -V gawk -V I suspect that you will get the same GNU Awk in both instances. Tomas On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 08:16 -0800, Rich Shepard wrote: >I was curious whether awk is a soft link to gawk on my Slackware > systems > so I checked. They are two s

Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Russell Senior
> "Denis" == Denis Heidtmann writes: Denis> This is a recent install, so I expect that there may not be many Denis> kernels. How do I see what older kernels I have? I use aptitude for package management. Look for packages named linux-image-* and the associated linux-image-extra-*. You wan

Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Russell Senior > wrote: > >> > "Denis" == Denis Heidtmann writes: >> >> Denis> Seems like initramfs ran into a memory limit. I really do not >> Denis> know what this is about, but poking around t

Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > "Denis" == Denis Heidtmann writes: > > Denis> Seems like initramfs ran into a memory limit. I really do not > Denis> know what this is about, but poking around the web gives me the > Denis> idea that an upgrade was attempted but did

Re: [PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Russell Senior
> "Denis" == Denis Heidtmann writes: Denis> Seems like initramfs ran into a memory limit. I really do not Denis> know what this is about, but poking around the web gives me the Denis> idea that an upgrade was attempted but did not have room. A bug Denis> report indicated that initramfs-tool

[PLUG] laptop error msg out of space for /boot

2016-11-18 Thread Denis Heidtmann
Seems like initramfs ran into a memory limit. I really do not know what this is about, but poking around the web gives me the idea that an upgrade was attempted but did not have room. A bug report indicated that initramfs-tools does not check for memory sufficiency: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > The realpath utility is good for that: Paul, Kewel tool. Thanks! Carpe weekend, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > >> You're still seeing only the symlinks. At some point, you'll hit real >> files. What does >> ls -l /bin/*awk* >> show? > > Finally reached bottom: > > $ ls -l /bin/*awk* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > You're still seeing only the symlinks. At some point, you'll hit real > files. What does > ls -l /bin/*awk* > show? Finally reached bottom: $ ls -l /bin/*awk* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 9 2014 /bin/awk -> gawk* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > >> What does "ls -l /bin/*awk" give you? > > Paul, > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 9 2014 /bin/awk -> gawk* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 9 2014 /bin/gawk -> gawk-4.1.0* You're still seeing only the sym

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > What does "ls -l /bin/*awk" give you? Paul, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar 9 2014 /bin/awk -> gawk* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Mar 9 2014 /bin/gawk -> gawk-4.1.0* Wonder why I get different results when queried individually. So both are gawk. Th

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > >> Are they separate binaries, or are they hard-linked (rather than >> symlinked)? > > Paul, > > Appear to be separate binaries: > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 9 2014 /usr/bin/awk -> ../../bin/awk* > lrw

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Paul Heinlein wrote: > Are they separate binaries, or are they hard-linked (rather than symlinked)? Paul, Appear to be separate binaries: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Mar 9 2014 /usr/bin/awk -> ../../bin/awk* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Mar 9 2014 /usr/bin/gawk -> ../../b

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Rich Shepard wrote: I was curious whether awk is a soft link to gawk on my Slackware systems so I checked. They are two separate binaries. Since awk is apparently not the same as gawk, what version of awk does it represent? Are they separate binaries, or are they hard-link

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Larry Brigman wrote: > I suspect that they are supplied by the same package. Awk would be > compiled with the --traditional option as embedded default. Larry, I wondered if that is the case. I suppose that traditional awk limits would be needed if one had a dusty old awk

Re: [PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Larry Brigman
I suspect that they are supplied by the same package. Awk would be compiled with the --traditional option as embedded default. Gawk can revert to that mode when supplying that option on the command line. On Nov 18, 2016 8:21 AM, "Rich Shepard" wrote: I was curious whether awk is a soft link

[PLUG] awk vs. gawk

2016-11-18 Thread Rich Shepard
I was curious whether awk is a soft link to gawk on my Slackware systems so I checked. They are two separate binaries. Since awk is apparently not the same as gawk, what version of awk does it represent? It's interesting that 'man awk' displays the gawk man page. A curious mind wants to kno

Re: [PLUG] problems w/ desktop ubuntu 14.04 machine

2016-11-18 Thread Denis Heidtmann
The osm was working until I inadvertently changed it to hdmi, then it stopped. I plan on looking for a used monitor later this AM. This laptop supports an external monitor. Need to get a cable. Thanks, -Denis On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Michael Barnes wrote: > Just curious. If there is n

Re: [PLUG] problems w/ desktop ubuntu 14.04 machine

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Barnes
Just curious. If there is no OSD, how do you know HDMI input is selected? Also, do you have another computer or laptop or Raspberry Pi or Roku or something you can hook up to the monitor to see if it is working? You should get an OSD even with nothing connected to the monitor. So far, everything yo