Need help restoring X window system

2005-09-13 Thread Al Byers
I am running suse 9.3 and the power got cut off abruptly and now I cannot run "startx" as a normal user, but I can as root. My .X.err files reads: linux:/home/byersa # cat .X.err X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build

[OT] Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Michael Torrie wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:07 -0700, Jonathan Ellis wrote: Your ignorance of how things work in a totalitarian state is disturbing. Please start with "The Aquariums of Pyongyang." I work frequently with students from the PRC. They are, of course, the cream of the

OT - Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Torrie
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 22:48 -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > For a truly worrisome story, google for "Titan Rain." I should note that the "Titan Rain" story is mostly unsubstantiated at this point, but entirely within the realm of possibility. We'd be fooling ourselves to think it could and would

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Torrie
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 19:07 -0700, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > Your ignorance of how things work in a totalitarian state is disturbing. > > Please start with "The Aquariums of Pyongyang." I work frequently with students from the PRC. They are, of course, the cream of the crop, but generally speaking

Re: Meating on september 14

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 21:02 -0600, Levi Pearson wrote: > So, is this a Bring Your Own Meat meating? ;) Nobody needs to point out obvious spelling errors. I'm sure he started kicking himself after he hit send. As for me, I have a bit of a beam in my eye so I'll let anything pass. /* PLUG: http:/

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Joel Finlinson
On 9/13/05, Hans Fugal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the excellent explanation. > > > I don't know how easy it would be to get the list software to change the > I could learn python and patch mailman, or I could just change the sig > yet again. > > > /* > PLUG: http://plug.org, #

Re: Meating on september 14

2005-09-13 Thread Levi Pearson
On Sep 13, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Jordan Gunderson wrote: Dalan wrote: Is there going to be a meating on september 14? Jayce said: Just a reminder about the Plug meeting this week. Brad Midgley will be presenting on Gumstix hardware. Developing micro Linux devices, specifically focusing on

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:00:50 -0600, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > As to the previous posters comment about magical water. There is also > nothing in the water that prevents non-clueful or even clueful but > permissive admins from working there either. In fact I would hazard a > guess tha

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Hans Fugal
Thanks for the excellent explanation. > I don't know how easy it would be to get the list software to change the > footer based on the Content-Type header or the body of the message. If > it is easy, it could space-stuff the footer if it was meant to be > format=flowed. Of course, some peopl

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Ross Werner wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jonathan Ellis wrote: Yes. The Chinese are very serious about what they do, and they have the budget to enforce it. Nor is there some magical property of Chinese water that prevents clueful network admins from working there. I'd also like to point o

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Ross Werner
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Jonathan Ellis wrote: Yes. The Chinese are very serious about what they do, and they have the budget to enforce it. Nor is there some magical property of Chinese water that prevents clueful network admins from working there. I'd also like to point out that it's not even a

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:35:53 -0600, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jonathan Ellis wrote: > >You really think something obvious like "block Tor" wouldn't occur to > >Bad Governments? > > > >/skeptical > You really think that any "government" would be smart enough to figure > out how to block

Re: Meating on september 14

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 17:00 -0600, Dalan wrote: > Is there going to be a meating on september 14? This is a good time to plug the webcal for the PLUG. webcal://plug.org/calendar.ics It works great with Evolution (or anything else that does webcal). The only problem is that the next meeting doe

Re: Meating on september 14

2005-09-13 Thread Jordan Gunderson
Dalan wrote: Is there going to be a meating on september 14? Jayce said: Just a reminder about the Plug meeting this week. Brad Midgley will be presenting on Gumstix hardware. Developing micro Linux devices, specifically focusing on bluetooth and ALSA in them. Some really interesting lookin

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread J. Rhett Hooper
Hans Fugal wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 at 00:44 -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: I don't really care about the Penguin but we really have to have a newline between the body and the footer so they don't run together. There is. Sorry, I can't explain why sometimes it doesn't show up, any more than

Meating on september 14

2005-09-13 Thread Dalan
Is there going to be a meating on september 14? -- -=/Dalan Andelin/=- /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net * Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug */

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Steve on Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:01:49 MDT: > Something seems to be amiss in my hosts file for a new name server and > website I'm working on, and I can't quite figure it out. Might be with your registrar too. It lists: Domain servers in listed order: ns1.abac.com 216.55.128.4 ns2.

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Steve on Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:01:49 MDT: > biocoin.com.INSOAns1.biocoin.com. smorrey.gmail.com. ( > 1126368330 > 10800 > 3600 > 604800 > 38400 ) > biocoin.com.INSOAns2.biocoin.com. smorrey.gmail.com. ( >

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Jonathan Ellis wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:06:29 -0600, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: However the best reason for it's use is to facilitate access to the global internet, in free-speech challenged countries like china. For instance the great firewall of China, blocks access to my bl

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:06:29 -0600, "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > However the best reason for it's > use is to facilitate access to the global internet, in free-speech > challenged countries like china. For instance the great firewall of > China, blocks access to my blog at blogspot which

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Matthew Ross Walker wrote: Hans Fugal wrote: I can't seem to find anything about the "traditional" order for a hosts file. If someone could, post one that would be great. Anyways thanks for the help. Well I don't know that there would be, but generally people do the SOA, the A reco

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Matthew Ross Walker
Hans Fugal wrote: >>I can't seem to find anything about the "traditional" order for a hosts >>file. If someone could, post one that would be great. >>Anyways thanks for the help. > > > Well I don't know that there would be, but generally people do the SOA, > the A record for example.com (where

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Hans Fugal
> I can't seem to find anything about the "traditional" order for a hosts > file. If someone could, post one that would be great. > Anyways thanks for the help. Well I don't know that there would be, but generally people do the SOA, the A record for example.com (where example.com is your domain)

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Hans Fugal wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 at 03:01 -0600, Steve wrote: Hello all. Something seems to be amiss in my hosts file for a new name server and website I'm working on, and I can't quite figure it out. What are the symptoms? I'm hoping maybe someone here can help. Again this

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Gabriel Gunderson wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 14:12 -0500, Michael Halcrow wrote: Just be careful about inadvertently running as an end-node, or requests for child porn may start coming from your net connection. Ouch. Thanks for the "heads up". I'm looking at the man page now and I

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 14:12 -0500, Michael Halcrow wrote: > Just be careful about inadvertently running as an end-node, or > requests for child porn may start coming from your net connection. Ouch. Thanks for the "heads up". I'm looking at the man page now and I'm surprised by the number of opti

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:24:23PM -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > 2) The following text from the tor site makes it look like tor is > still not ready for prime time. How strong to you think less then > "strong anonymity" is? Tor is certainly better than nothing, but I would not bet my life on

Re: Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 12:24 -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > "Tor is an important piece of building more safety, privacy, and > anonymity online, but it is not a complete solution. And remember that > this is development codeā€”it's not a good idea to rely on the current Tor > network if you really

Re: Satellite Internet Recommendations?

2005-09-13 Thread Joel Finlinson
On 9/9/05, Levi Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2005, at 4:12 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a satellite ISP for some friends of mine. They are > > writers who live so far out in the wilderness that they have neither > > mobile phone service nor fixed phone se

Torn about Tor

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
It seems that there has been a bit of talk about tor lately [1] [2]. I've decided to install it and give it a whirl. There are sites that I would like checkout from work but haven't because it would look stupid for the site's owners (our competition) to see that we have been checking them out (a c

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:28 -0600, Doran Barton wrote: > Okay, now you're getting out of hand. You're just using the PLUG list > for your own entertainment! Yeah, thats never been done before! Actually, I was replying to let the other poster know that his assumptions were false. Nobody knew whet

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Doran Barton
Gabriel Gunderson wrote: P.S. No newline after this. Let's see what happens. Okay, now you're getting out of hand. You're just using the PLUG list for your own entertainment! ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] is Doran L. Barton, president, Iodynamics LLC Iodynamics: Linux solutions - Web developmen

Where to get small fasteners for a laptop

2005-09-13 Thread Al Byers
Is there a place locally that will sell small fasteners for a laptop. I have a few screws loose and missing (from my laptop). -Al Byers /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net * Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug */

Re: *UVLUG* Meeting Re: Meeting this Saturday

2005-09-13 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:26:24PM -0600, Ross Werner wrote: > Of course, I thought the "CS 404" reference was to the ethics class > at BYU Is that Freudian? :-/ Mike .___. Every rule has an exception, except the rule of exceptions.

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 08:45 -0600, Corey Edwards wrote: > > There is. Sorry, I can't explain why sometimes it doesn't show up, > > any more than I can explain why sometimes the leading spaces are > > removed. > I'm guessing that Joel's message didn't have a trailing newline while > Gabriel's did.

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 03:01 -0600, Steve wrote: > biocoin.com.INSOAns1.biocoin.com. smorrey.gmail.com. ( > 1126368330 > 10800 > 3600 > 604800 > 38400 ) I would recommend you lower your default TTL from 38400. This number is us

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 07:47 -0600, Hans Fugal wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 at 00:44 -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 17:10 -0600, Joel Finlinson wrote: > > > Count me as one more vote for "Don't Fear the Penguin" using the > > > C-style commenting. > > > /* PLUG: http:/

Re: HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Hans Fugal
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 at 03:01 -0600, Steve wrote: > Hello all. > Something seems to be amiss in my hosts file for a new name server and > website I'm working on, and I can't quite figure it out. What are the symptoms? > I'm hoping maybe someone here can help. Again this is one of those > times,

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Ross Werner
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: I don't really care about the Penguin but we really have to have a newline between the body and the footer so they don't run together. Maybe even two! ~ Ross "Two Newlines Plus a Penguin" Werner /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.fr

Re: mailing list footer addition request

2005-09-13 Thread Hans Fugal
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 at 00:44 -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 17:10 -0600, Joel Finlinson wrote: > > Count me as one more vote for "Don't Fear the Penguin" using the > > C-style commenting. > > /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > > * Unsubscribe: http:/

HOSTS file configuration

2005-09-13 Thread Steve
Hello all. Something seems to be amiss in my hosts file for a new name server and website I'm working on, and I can't quite figure it out. I'm hoping maybe someone here can help. Again this is one of those times, I'm absolutely sure it's something simple and stupid. This file was created with