Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Alan Young
Stuart Jansen wrote: > Although I probably shouldn't start down this path with Perl hackers > listening. I was s tempted, but I didn't pursue it too far ... there's not much you can do with that few characters without turning it into a japh. BUT let us not forget the ever popular *n*x /* PL

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread shadoi
Grant Robinson wrote: Personally, I would still buy the Apple, as there is also a whole host of other things that the MacBook Pro offers for me like battery life, OS (no legal OS X for a Toshiba), iLife, etc, etc. And they double as a portable lap heater! :) Seriously, sometimes I appr

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Doran Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey Moss wrote: > Does anybody else get pain in the fingers? What caused it and > what'd you do about it? I went to a doctor last year for debilitating > pain in my hands (mostly my right index finger), he said it was > tendonitis and gave me stero

date validater

2006-08-30 Thread Joe Crown
Well as I promised I will now post my JavaScript. It is in the CVS of the following project over at source forge. I haven't made a package yet as I haven't had the time or more importantly the knowledge of how to do it. http://sourceforge.net/projects/datevalidator If anyone will point me i

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 8/30/06, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Both seem to be on full duplex. Anything else I should do to make sure that's the case? Run ifconfig to see if there are any errors or collisions. It's possible that your NIC will lie, of course, but it's a good test. /* PLUG: http://plug.o

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Scott Paul Robertson
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:09:30PM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > * Extra buttons for controlling CD/DVD with lid closed Macbook Pro comes with the apple remote. If you turn off sleep when the lid closes you'd have the same functionality. -- Scott Paul Robertson http://spr.mahonri5.net GnuPG Fin

Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 17:21 -0600, Alan Young wrote: > [UL]i?n[ui]x If you're willing to accept a (relatively*) minor set of misspellings, try: ([^A-KM-Z][^a-hj-z][^a-mo-z][^a-tv-z]|[^A-TV-Z][^a-mo-z][^a-hj-z])x ;-) Although I probably shouldn't start down this path with Perl hackers listening.

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Daniel C.
Before you or anyone else on the list looks into getting chiropractic care, you might want to take a look at chirobase.org. It's a site that's run jointly with quackwatch.org. Dan On 8/30/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Despite that tongue lodged firmly in your cheek, you hit

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
Corey Edwards wrote: >On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:57 -0700, Jeffrey Moss wrote: > > >>Does anybody else get pain in the fingers? What caused it and >>what'd you do about it? I went to a doctor last year for debilitating >>pain in my hands (mostly my right index finger), he said it was >>tendonitis

Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Mister E
Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 17:26 -0600, Jeff Schroeder wrote: Call me crazy. ;) You're crazy. doh! Yer just simply out of your mind for calling him that ;-P /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fe

Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 17:26 -0600, Jeff Schroeder wrote: > Call me crazy. ;) You're crazy. -- Stuart Jansen e-mail/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] google talk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." -

Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Jeff Schroeder
> If you don't care about matching non-existant names: > > [UL]i?n[ui]x For readability, I'd just go with {Unix,Linux} Call me crazy. ;) Jeff pgpRUbIRrC4Ad.pgp Description: PGP signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don

Re: OT: I couldn't resist

2006-08-30 Thread Alan Young
Clint Savage wrote: > it would be {Uni,Linu}x, because otherwise, you would be spelling one or > the other improprerly. If you don't care about matching non-existant names: [UL]i?n[ui]x /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fe

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Alan Young
Charles Curley wrote: > Remeber that manufacturers always overstate battery life, sometimes > considerably. Mine didn't ... they said it had 60 minutes of battery life. And it even sometimes lasts as long as 75 minutes. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Daniel C.
My initial suspicion is that you're habitually doing something that's putting you in an unnatural position. I used to have pains all down the diodes in my right arm. Eventually I figured out that I had to raise my arm just slightly above where it's comfortable (but not noticeably so) to use my m

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hans Fugal
I'll weigh in on the mac/nonmac issue briefly. I got an iBook for the hardware. Rumor had it that everything but wireless just worked in Linux, and based on my previous experience with dell, toshiba, and compaq laptops that was a phenomenal claim. It was a true claim. And what's more, wireless is

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Walker
> On AD 2006 August 30 Wednesday 12:03:21 PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> it would be {Uni,Linu}x, because otherwise, you would be spelling one or >> the >> other improprerly. > > Excellent. The next distro I create I'm going to call it UniLinux. "We > know how to spell things properly", or "Got

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 August 30 Wednesday 12:03:21 PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > it would be {Uni,Linu}x, because otherwise, you would be spelling one or the > other improprerly. Excellent. The next distro I create I'm going to call it UniLinux. "We know how to spell things properly", or "Got Linu in you

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Roberto Mello
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:28:15PM -0600, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > Myth keeps a very small buffer for several reasons, but it's not worth > going into and it's not something you can tweak minus hacking the code. > Now I've also seen problems with some switches and network cards. My > gigabit sw

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:09 -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > * You can't get a comparable graphics card in the Toshiba. The best > they offer is an Nvidia GForce 7600 > * No backlit keyboard option > * No sudden motion senser option > * No built-in iSight video camera option > * No Firewire 800 op

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Roberto Mello
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:09:45PM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > > Actually mplayer is pretty clever. Not that myth isn't but mplayer > uses a longer cache and has some really good decode algorithms. But > now that I mention that I think they both use ffmpeg for mpeg4 (or are > you using rtjp

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Brandon Beattie
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:09:45PM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > On 8/30/06, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The problem seems to be specifically on the transmission of data. I don't > >the computer can't process the stream fast enough, otherwise mplayer > >playing those very same fi

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Robinson
On Aug 30, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Hill, Greg wrote: You can't. The only 17" macbook has a 2.16GHz processor, and starts at $2799 with 1GB ram. Upping to 2GB is $300 more. If you could downgrade the processor, it'd probably be about $300 less (rough guess), so $2800 vs $1350... hmmm Sheesh

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 8/30/06, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem seems to be specifically on the transmission of data. I don't the computer can't process the stream fast enough, otherwise mplayer playing those very same files over the NFS share would be just as choppy. Actually mplayer is prett

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Robinson
On Aug 30, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Grant Shipley wrote: On 8/30/06, Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What vendor/model is this? I'm also curious what the dimensions are, and what it looks like. Do you have a picture? Its a toshiba p105-s6084 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G6T1ZI/1

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Corey Edwards
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:11 -0600, Jason Hall wrote: > On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:23, Corey Edwards wrote: > > Tongue-in-cheek, I know. But have you ever considered how useless > > computer troubleshooting skills often are in other realms. I cringe at > > the thought of being a doctor where the

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Gary Thornock
--- Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:30:17PM -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: >> >> Its a toshiba p105-s6084 >> >> I got it on sale at Best Buy for 1350.00. The amazon link >> has it for 1398.00 with a 100.00 rebate -- making it 1298.00. >> You can't buy an apple w

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Matthew Walker
> On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:23, Corey Edwards wrote: >> Tongue-in-cheek, I know. But have you ever considered how useless >> computer troubleshooting skills often are in other realms. I cringe at >> the thought of being a doctor where there's no way to say "this one's >> fried, go get another"

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Hans Fugal
I don't know if it will help your pinky, but if you do a lot of mousing (e.g. web browsing or using GUI programs a lot) you might find relief from a trackball. I try to avoid mousing, but when doing a lot of web research it's hard to avoid and a trackball is a lot of help. I like the logitech marbl

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Hans Fugal
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 at 14:05 -0600, Joseph Hall wrote: > It's possible that your pain is caused by TOS. I ended up going to a > variety of specialists before finally being diagnosed with it (general > practitioner, hand specialist, neurologist, etc). You might want to > start by asking your regular

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hans Fugal
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 at 14:31 -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: > True. This is why I admire Fedora Core so much. They refuse to ship > any binary only drivers from companies. Careful. You're well on the way to sounding like a Debianist. You'll be warding off anti-zealot zealots for years to come. --

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Roberto Mello
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 12:16:34PM -0600, Chris Carey wrote: > On 8/30/06, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The backend server is an Athlon 1.8 GHz, 512 MiB of RAM. The frontend > >where the problem happens is a Dual P3 with 512 MiB of RAM. Everyone has > >DMA enabled. > > > What MH

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 03:30:17PM -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: > > Its a toshiba p105-s6084 > > I got it on sale at Best Buy for 1350.00. The amazon link has it for > 1398.00 with a 100.00 rebate -- making it 1298.00. You can't buy an > apple with specs close to this for that same price. > Th

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Jason Hall
On Wednesday 30 August 2006 14:23, Corey Edwards wrote: > Tongue-in-cheek, I know. But have you ever considered how useless > computer troubleshooting skills often are in other realms. I cringe at > the thought of being a doctor where there's no way to say "this one's > fried, go get another". I d

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Shane Hathaway
Stuart Jansen wrote: BUT, part of the problem is also with the kernel's wireless stack. (I suspect the reason my OSS Broadcom drivers stopped working is that the kernel API version doesn't match the Fedora wireless-utils version.) Even the kernel developers admit the wireless stack is a mess. A f

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Corey Edwards
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:57 -0700, Jeffrey Moss wrote: > Does anybody else get pain in the fingers? What caused it and > what'd you do about it? I went to a doctor last year for debilitating > pain in my hands (mostly my right index finger), he said it was > tendonitis and gave me steroids, which h

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Joseph Hall
I've been using my mouse left-handed for about 6 to 7 years now, and it's definitely helped with my right hand. In fact, I'm better now using the mouse left-handed than right-handed. On 8/30/06, Bart Whiteley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/30/06, Jeffrey Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doe

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jeff Nyman
Wow I started my first flame war, cool. Just for the record I have a T-30 I got from etech4sale.com for $495 then put another 100 in it to up the ram to a gig. I run FC5 on it and love it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grant Shipley Sent: We

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Bart Whiteley
On 8/30/06, Jeffrey Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anybody else get pain in the fingers? What caused it and what'd you do about it? I went to a doctor last year for debilitating pain in my hands (mostly my right index finger), he said it was tendonitis and gave me steroids, which helped me

RE: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I had pain in my right hand/wrist that was tendonitis. For about a month I did everything possible to avoid the pain by holding it in the most comfortable position and not letting my wrist/arm rest on anything. That and Ibuprofen. Eventually the pain went away and I rarely ever get it anymore.

Re: Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Joseph Hall
Several years ago I had tendonitis, carpal tunnel syndrome and thoracic outlet syndrome all at the same time. Thoracic outlet syndrome ended up being an interesting one, since it can affect the nerves anywhere on your arm. It was explained to me that TOS is frequently misdiagnosed as a variety of

Hand Pain

2006-08-30 Thread Jeffrey Moss
Does anybody else get pain in the fingers? What caused it and what'd you do about it? I went to a doctor last year for debilitating pain in my hands (mostly my right index finger), he said it was tendonitis and gave me steroids, which helped me recover but this pain in my index finger never went aw

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
On 8/30/06, Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What vendor/model is this? I'm also curious what the dimensions are, and what it looks like. Do you have a picture? Its a toshiba p105-s6084 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G6T1ZI/102-4912139-9245755?v=glance&n=541966 I got it on sa

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 14:31 -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: > On 8/30/06, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wireless. Admit it, Linux wireless is a mess. > > I did have to install an rpm for my wireless card (Intel). You were fortunate enough to find a laptop with an Intel chip. Giant kudo

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Hill, Greg wrote: How is that monopolistic? They took a great idea and maid their own version of it. I'm not suggesting that it doesn't suck for the little man, but it is not unethical. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there in the world of competition. If Konfabulator

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Blake Barnett
On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Grant Shipley wrote: On 8/30/06, Grant Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah yes, the classic "Macs are more expensive" argument. Don't look now, folks, but Mac laptops are actually cheaper than Dell or IBM (Lenovo), at least for now. My father-in-law is prett

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Jason Holt
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:40 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) /me pulls out his copy of "Mastering Regular Expressions" Hmmm, it looks like I actually meant (U|Li)nix. Sorry, I

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hill, Greg
> > You can't. The only 17" macbook has a 2.16GHz processor, and > > starts at > > $2799 with 1GB ram. Upping to 2GB is $300 more. > > > > If you could downgrade the processor, it'd probably be about $300 less > > (rough guess), so $2800 vs $1350... hmmm > > Sheesh. Follow the logic _complet

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
You can't. The only 17" macbook has a 2.16GHz processor, and starts at $2799 with 1GB ram. Upping to 2GB is $300 more. If you could downgrade the processor, it'd probably be about $300 less (rough guess), so $2800 vs $1350... hmmm Sheesh. Follow the logic _completely_ through gentlemen.

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hill, Greg
> Really? How much would the specs I provided earlier cost me if I bought a > mac? > > To repeat the specs > 17 inch 1440x900 > 2GB ram > 120GB Drive > DVD Burner > Fingerprint reader > 256 video card > TV Tuner > Dual Core 1.66 > > I paid 1350.00 You can't. The only 17" macbook has a 2.16GHz

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hill, Greg
> How is that monopolistic? They took a great idea and maid their own > version of it. I'm not suggesting that it doesn't suck for the little > man, but it is not unethical. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there in > the world of competition. If Konfabulator's is better, people will > use it over Dash

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
On 8/30/06, Grant Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah yes, the classic "Macs are more expensive" argument. Don't look now, folks, but Mac laptops are actually cheaper than Dell or IBM (Lenovo), at least for now. My father-in-law is pretty anti-Mac, and he just bought my sister-in-law a MacB

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
On 8/30/06, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wireless. Admit it, Linux wireless is a mess. I did have to install an rpm for my wireless card (Intel). After that, everything just worked. I use NetworkManager in gnome. It detected all available wireless networks and asked me which one

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Clint Savage wrote: Okay, but that's still not right it would be {Uni,Linu}x, because otherwise, you would be spelling one or the other improprerly. {U,Li}nux would evaluate to Unux Linux and {U,Li}nix would evaluate to Unix Linix Cheers, Clint Yep, you win. My bad.

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Robinson
On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Hill, Greg wrote: You invoke the rite of Mac Evangelist of your own choice? So let it be written, so let it be done. I don't really care for OS:X because it hides all the tasty stuff away so I have to google to figure out how to do anything significant. You

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Carey
On 8/30/06, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The backend server is an Athlon 1.8 GHz, 512 MiB of RAM. The frontend where the problem happens is a Dual P3 with 512 MiB of RAM. Everyone has DMA enabled. What MHZ is your Dual P3? Are you running SMP kernel? Does MythFrontend even have th

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:57 -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: > Don't be tempted by os-x. Fedora Core 5/6 can look just as good. I'm not talking about looks, I'm talking about stuff just working. I'm no newbie, in fact I teach people to use Linux. The fact is that Linux still has all kinds of rough spo

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Clint Savage
On 8/30/06, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:40 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: >>> I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) >> >> /me pulls out his copy of "Mastering Regular Expr

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 11:45 -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > I don't know how you can confuse the two of us. :) Just cause we > have the same first name, that's no excuse. *snip* > Stewart is not anti-Apple hardware, just anti-Apple software (OS X). > He used to use a powerbook, if I am not mis

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Barry Roberts
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:46:35AM -0700, Hill, Greg wrote: > > So, yeah, Macs may be great and all, but the attitude of their sheep > fans is kind of off-putting. I'll stick to paying way less for way > more. And anyone who complains about Microsoft's monopolistic tactics > should take a close

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Roberto Mello
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:45:00AM -0600, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > Are you using 100mb/s networking? Wireless and even 10mb/s can do this. Yes. -Roberto -- Install failed. Attempting to transfer virus to c: /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/ma

Re: MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Brandon Beattie
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:00:39AM -0600, Roberto Mello wrote: > I have a Myth frontend machine where I get frequent "prebuffering" pauses. > It causes the video -- particularly on Live TV -- to be jerky. I'm only > doing standard TV, no fancy HD. > > The backend server is an Athlon 1.8 GHz, 512 M

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Robinson
On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 11:48 -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: I have wondered over the last year or so why so many in the open source world consider OS-X an okay choice of operating system but are still anti-windows. Lets not forget that OS-X is no

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
So, yeah, Macs may be great and all, but the attitude of their sheep fans is kind of off-putting. I'll stick to paying way less for way more. I think that it's pretty weak that you have based your opinions solely off of the opinions of others. How does the actions and/or attitudes of certai

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Steve
Ok umm... Let me try to rephrase. I have only a little less than $800 for the laptop. New or Used is irrelevant. Macs are not at all likely, due to the fact that I'm programming a Linux gaming client, however a cheap Mac I could dual boot is a deffinite option. Also I'm not wanting to buy somethin

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jeffrey Moss
You probably won't find a lower price than on http://www.dellauction.com/ Lower than dell's refurbished direct, which is also pretty low! You should be able to find a decent rig for $500 and spend your extra $300 on a desktop upgrade. -Jeff On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:31:02AM -0600, Stuart Jansen

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Hill, Greg wrote: So, yeah, Macs may be great and all, but the attitude of their sheep fans is kind of off-putting. I'll stick to paying way less for way more. And anyone who complains about Microsoft's monopolistic tactics should take a close look at how Apple does busin

MythTV frontend rebuffering problem

2006-08-30 Thread Roberto Mello
I have a Myth frontend machine where I get frequent "prebuffering" pauses. It causes the video -- particularly on Live TV -- to be jerky. I'm only doing standard TV, no fancy HD. The backend server is an Athlon 1.8 GHz, 512 MiB of RAM. The frontend where the problem happens is a Dual P3 with 512 M

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:40 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) /me pulls out his copy of "Mastering Regular Expressions" Hmmm, it looks like I actually meant (U|Li)nix. Sorry, I

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
On 8/30/06, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To put things in perspective, IIRC Grant is a Mac lover. Or was at least a few years ago. Unless I'm confusing him with another Grant. I think you have me confused with another Grant. I did have a mac for a few months once, but I have never

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Gary Thornock wrote: --- Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Grant Shipley wrote: I have wondered over the last year or so why so many in the open source world consider OS-X an okay choice of operating system but are still anti-windows. Lets n

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Hill, Greg
> You invoke the rite of Mac Evangelist of your own choice? So let it be > written, so let it be done. I don't really care for OS:X because it hides all the tasty stuff away so I have to google to figure out how to do anything significant. But, that part doesn't really bug me so much. Allow me

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:40 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: > > I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) > > /me pulls out his copy of "Mastering Regular Expressions" > > Hmmm, it looks like I actually meant (U|Li)nix. Sorry, I am a bit rusty. > =) Thanks for

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 11:48 -0400, Grant Shipley wrote: > I have wondered over the last year or so why so many in the open > source world consider OS-X an okay choice of operating system but are > still anti-windows. Lets not forget that OS-X is not free. To put things in perspective, IIRC Grant

Re: OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:21 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: At the same time I have always been in love with [U|Li]nix I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) /me pulls out his copy of "Mastering Regular Expressions" Hmmm, it looks like I actually meant (

Re: Media players crash on HTPC

2006-08-30 Thread Carl Youngblood
Thanks for the tip Brandon, the problem was indeed related to the video drivers. I was using the HDTV-out cable on my card, and the drivers unfortunately don't support most of the video acceleration stuff that mplayer and other software is trying to do. Everything worked fine when I hooked my re

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Gary Thornock
--- Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Grant Shipley wrote: >> I have wondered over the last year or so why so many in the >> open source world consider OS-X an okay choice of operating >> system but are still anti-windows. Lets not forget that OS-X >> is not free. >

OT: I couldn't resist (was: Re: Getting a fair deal?)

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 10:21 -0600, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > At the same time I have > always been in love with [U|Li]nix I'm sure you meant {U,Li}nux ;-) -- Stuart Jansen e-mail/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] google talk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "However beautif

Re: Media players crash on HTPC

2006-08-30 Thread Carl Youngblood
My HD reception is great. I have a good antenna installed on my roof. By the way, if you want to be able to record encrypted HD programs from a cable-type provider, the best and only option I know of is http://www.169time.com/, which sells modified satellite set-top boxes, which give you a direct

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Gary Thornock
--- Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 08:17 -0600, Steve wrote: >> I have been looking all over for a good quality laptop that's >> affordable i.e < $800 and am coming up a little short. > > I splurged on my last laptop purchase and ever since then I've > been glad I

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Grant Shipley wrote: ->>> Thread hijack. <<<- On 8/30/06, Jeff Nyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well my son just got a macbook. He saved all summer for a car and one day decided to get the notebook instead. I think the free ipod had a lot to do with it. It is the

wireless router for sale

2006-08-30 Thread Stephen Ward
Folks, I have a Linksys wireless router that I'm no longer using. Perhaps one of you would like it? The product name on the box is "BEFW11S4 ver. 2". Here's the link to it on linksys.com: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826220&packed

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:48:42 -0400, "Grant Shipley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have wondered over the last year or so why so many in the open > source world consider OS-X an okay choice of operating system but are > still anti-windows. Lets not forget that OS-X is not free. Some of us are anti

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
Thread hijack. On 8/30/06, Jeff Nyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well my son just got a macbook. He saved all summer for a car and one day decided to get the notebook instead. I think the free ipod had a lot to do with it. It is the most awesome piece of equipment I've ever seen. It blows me awa

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 08:17 -0600, Steve wrote: I have been looking all over for a good quality laptop that's affordable i.e < $800 and am coming up a little short. I splurged on my last laptop purchase and ever since then I've been glad I did. Maint

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 08:17 -0600, Steve wrote: > I have been looking all over for a good quality laptop that's > affordable i.e < $800 and am coming up a little short. I splurged on my last laptop purchase and ever since then I've been glad I did. Maintaining multiple computers is too much work,

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:17:30AM -0600, Steve wrote: > Hello everyone, > Recently I've started needing to make frequent trips between Orem and > Salt Lake. Because of high gas prices, I am using mass transit and > have realized that the long waits at/on the bus/train would be a great > time to a

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Charles M. Wood
Laptops unlimited sells second hand laptops. They're not great, but they're cheap. At least worth a look. You can find them at http://www.laptopsunlimited.com/ On 8/30/06, Grant Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would search the deal sites (slickdeals.net dealnews.com etc) for a deal on a

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
I love my MacBook Pro! It is awesome. However, like the MacBook that Jeff mentioned, it does not fit in your budget. You could try eBay, or Computer Recyclers, Dell Refurbished section, PC Club. You can even check the Apple Refurbished section, they usually have computers that are cheaper.

Re: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Grant Shipley
I would search the deal sites (slickdeals.net dealnews.com etc) for a deal on a dell. If you want something a little more powerful, I picked up the following machine about a month ago. Price point: 1350.00 Dual Core 1.66 2GB ram 256 Video 120GB Drive Wireless built in Fingerprint reader for aut

RE: Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Jeff Nyman
Well my son just got a macbook. He saved all summer for a car and one day decided to get the notebook instead. I think the free ipod had a lot to do with it. It is the most awesome piece of equipment I've ever seen. It blows me away every time I play with it. It doesn't quite meet your price point.

Getting a fair deal?

2006-08-30 Thread Steve
Hello everyone, Recently I've started needing to make frequent trips between Orem and Salt Lake. Because of high gas prices, I am using mass transit and have realized that the long waits at/on the bus/train would be a great time to actually get some work done. I have been looking all over for a g