Re: Crappy Houses

2008-06-22 Thread Michael Torrie
Hans Fugal wrote: > Anyway, my take on it is it's a crying shame that people are dumb but > it's not news. It's a crying shame that Utah is filling up and space is > limited, limiting your choices (or forcing you to a longer commute), but > it is. Utah is hardly filling up--the wasatch front is

Re: Crappy Houses

2008-06-22 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 18:54 -0600, Dave Smith wrote: > Hans Fugal wrote: > > They are rectangular 2 or 3 story houses, now (if not originally) > > divided into one or two housing units per floor. They would put any > > Utah McMansion to shame in terms of tastelessness and low quality, not > > to

Re: Crappy Houses

2008-06-22 Thread Dave Smith
Hans Fugal wrote: They are rectangular 2 or 3 story houses, now (if not originally) divided into one or two housing units per floor. They would put any Utah McMansion to shame in terms of tastelessness and low quality, not to mention lack of yard and curb appeal. The McMansions would only win

Re: OT - I don't _hate_ McMansions

2008-06-22 Thread Dave Smith
Jonathan Ellis wrote: it's easy to buy a lot and have a builder build whatever size home you like on it. I've never seen a lot for sale that wasn't owned by a developer. And generally, they won't sell it to you unless you let *them* build on it.Exceptions exist, but they are rare. --Dave

Re: Crappy Houses

2008-06-22 Thread Hans Fugal
Dave Smith wrote: Excellent point. I had not considered that. Perhaps my neighborhood has survived precisely because it was higher quality from the get go. I still doubt that it was on the upper end of the price spectrum, though. I would love to get a glimpse at the McMansion neighborhoods n

Re: Re: Free Computer

2008-06-22 Thread Matt Nelson
I apologize Justin, other than reading mailing lists I have not posted much to them until recently. I'll make sure to do this in the future. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:35 PM, justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Matt Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry Jeff

Re: OT - I don't _hate_ McMansions

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On > the topic of housing, however, there was a strong counter argument: "The > market has swung too far, even those who don't want them are being > forced to buy too large homes on too small land." Except that's not reall

Re: OT - Gas to hit 4.00

2008-06-22 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Consumers want small yards. That's why developers cram lots of houses on > the land they buy. They may want big yards, but they're not willing to pay a premium for them. That's what matters. -Jonathan /* PLUG: http://plu

Re: OT - I don't _hate_ McMansions

2008-06-22 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 00:19 -0600, Corey Edwards wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 22:04 -0600, Josh Coates wrote: > > >McMansions are built because people want them; > > > > ditto to stuart jansen's brilliant statement - (plus a "duh." added by me, > > directed towards andy. ;-) > > There's quite