Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:12 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > The singularity cannot occur because of the emacs vs vi, bloodfeud.  So no > worries there. ... Maybe Light Table will resolve the issue ... -- Alan Young /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/ma

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread S. Dale Morrey
The singularity cannot occur because of the emacs vs vi, bloodfeud. So no worries there. On May 18, 2012 6:09 PM, "Alan Young" wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Daniel C. wrote: > > Also I just can't bring myself to associate with a group that would > > use, with a straight face, the ph

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Daniel C. wrote: > Also I just can't bring myself to associate with a group that would > use, with a straight face, the phrase "Earth's electronic systems have > been self-organizing at the speed of light since Faraday's time."  I > don't believe I have encountered

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Alan Young wrote: > I'm not offended ... and I don't follow Kurzweil.  Are you making a > distinction between 'The Singularity' and the concept of a singularity > of some kind? If my understanding of a singularity as a change which irrevocably changes human life o

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Daniel C. wrote: > Apologies if anyone here is a Kurzweilite and takes offense at my > admittedly brusque handling of your beliefs.  It is not my intention I'm not offended ... and I don't follow Kurzweil. Are you making a distinction between 'The Singularity' an

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Alan Young wrote: > I'm not trolling, I promise.  How is the idea of a singularity religious? It promises salvation to humanity via a savior who will come "Some Day Real Soon Now", while offering no evidence that anything they claim is real. They use convoluted a

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Rich Li
On 05/18/2012 12:52 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > What I'd really like to see... > In the 1990's AT&T had an ad, showing someone pushing a grocery cart > full of groceries right thru a scanner and > then the total would be calculated - no need to empty the cart. > I guess the idea was RFID tags on ea

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread S. Dale Morrey
The problem with RFID is one of cost. There isn't a real cheap way of doing it on a per item basis. However they are widely used to track pallets for shipment. On May 18, 2012 1:12 PM, "Alan Young" wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Merrill Oveson > wrote: > > What happened? > > Parano

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > What happened? Paranoia and technophobia and politicians. -- Alan Young /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Merrill Oveson
The movie is Johnny Mnemonic. (He had to at times erase part of his childhood memories to store all the data.) (I'd give the movie a C-. It was cool concept - but it just didn't deliver.) What I'd really like to see... In the 1990's AT&T had an ad, showing someone pushing a grocery cart full of

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Alan Young
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Matthew Frederico > wrote: >> Sounds like Ray Kurzweil - http://www.singularity.com > > Leader of the best Sci-Fi religion since Scientology. I'm not trolling, I promise. How is the idea of a singularity relig

Re: Health problems from cybernetics?

2012-05-18 Thread Daniel C.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Matthew Frederico wrote: > Sounds like Ray Kurzweil - http://www.singularity.com Leader of the best Sci-Fi religion since Scientology. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */