Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/16/2013 06:16 PM, Lonnie Olson wrote: > Your previous emails all come across as pure Ubuntu bashing using > reasoning not supported by any evidence. This is disingenuous, > especially when the thread was started by a person unfamiliar with > Unity and was just looking for some details about

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Levi Pearson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 12/16/2013 12:28 PM, Lonnie Olson wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Olli Ries wrote: >>> Mir does have nothing to do with Unity >> >> Correct. This thread has diverged from the subject of Unity to >> general Canonical bashing.

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > On 12/16/2013 05:56 PM, Lonnie Olson wrote: >> No. You are wrong. >> * Display servers can be swapped back and forth by simple package choices. >> * X, and any other desktop environment will continue to be supported >> on Mir using the XMir

Re: Any OSX Power users?

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Grant Shipley wrote: > As a followup - AWS doesn't allow forwarders / recursion. They disable it. Then that clearly means that you should not use those AWS DNS servers for client resolution. A simple solution is to run your own forwarding/recursing nameserver th

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/16/2013 05:56 PM, Lonnie Olson wrote: > No. You are wrong. > * Display servers can be swapped back and forth by simple package choices. > * X, and any other desktop environment will continue to be supported > on Mir using the XMir compatibility layer. > > Your "sky is falling" logic is whol

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > I think this comparison is not accurate because all of these things you > mention can more or less coexist and be swapped back and forth > interchangeably. When Ubuntu completes the transition to Mir, Ubuntu > software and the Unity desktop

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/16/2013 12:28 PM, Lonnie Olson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Olli Ries wrote: >> Mir does have nothing to do with Unity > > Correct. This thread has diverged from the subject of Unity to > general Canonical bashing. I disagree with your assessment. Mir might not have anything

Re: Any OSX Power users?

2013-12-16 Thread Grant Shipley
As a followup - AWS doesn't allow forwarders / recursion. They disable it. The work around I have used it creating a example.com file in /etc/resolvers/ directory. The file basically specifies the dns server to use when trying to resolve the example.com domain. -- gs On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1

Re: Any OSX Power users?

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Grant Shipley wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Jonathan Grotegut > wrote: > >> Only use one DNS server? >> > > Yeah, but then I would have to setup forwarding. It will work I suppose > but I really want OSX to work the correct way. So just enable forw

Re: Pro/Cons on Mint vs. Gentoo?

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Dan Egli wrote: > So, while I love Gentoo, I hear a lot of people talking about how they love > Mint, and that Mint has the same flexibility as Gentoo, but is easier to > install/configure/update. If that's the case I may have to give serious > consideration to movi

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Olli Ries wrote: > Mir does have nothing to do with Unity Correct. This thread has diverged from the subject of Unity to general Canonical bashing. Unity is just another desktop environment, heavily based on Gnome3 (IMHO), but different in many important ways.

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Levi Pearson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Richard Esplin wrote: > I agree with your analysis, but I don't think your tone does justice to the > frustration with Ubuntu. It's the mismatch in expectations between those who > wanted to use Ubuntu Linux, and Canonical's wish to have their own OS built on > a

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Richard Esplin
I agree with your analysis, but I don't think your tone does justice to the frustration with Ubuntu. It's the mismatch in expectations between those who wanted to use Ubuntu Linux, and Canonical's wish to have their own OS built on a Linux base. Most adopters of Ubuntu who hang out on Linux lis

Re: Raspberry Pi Raspbmc Wireless Question

2013-12-16 Thread Ryan Moore
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Matthew Frederico wrote: > How much power+current are you giving it? > I hadn't considered the power issue, thanks! I'm just using the power supply that came with my Motorola Defy XT -- I'll try and look up the specs on it and see if I'm getting enough juice to t

Re: Raspberry Pi Raspbmc Wireless Question

2013-12-16 Thread Matthew Frederico
How much power+current are you giving it? I had issues (especially with USB) where it would "kind of" work off and on. Also consider streaming video will definitely pull power. My only concern was the XBMC wasn't completely optimized for the PI+GL so the interface was a bit sluggish. But it was

Raspberry Pi Raspbmc Wireless Question

2013-12-16 Thread Ryan Moore
Hello Pluggers, Has anyone been able to get Raspberry Pi up and running with Raspbmc (or Raspbian) using only a wireless network adapter from the get go? My TV is the only display I really have that I can plug the pi into and it is in a room without ethernet. I tried running it wireless connected

Re: December Meeting: ZFS on Linux (Aaron Toponce)

2013-12-16 Thread Steve Meyers
On 12/14/13 1:21 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: There was no reason for selecting it. If I recall correctly it was just the default on install, either that or I was too tired by the time it came time to select a filesystem and ended up just ticking a box without reading closely enough. The big probl

Re: Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Levi Pearson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Dan Egli wrote: >> Google does the same thing as Ubuntu with Android. A lot of us geeks > > Well yea, but Android is a bit different. First, they tell anyone who's > curious that Android is based on Linux. And that's the point. It's _based > on_ Linux. It's stated

Unity? (was: What's your favorite distro, and why?)

2013-12-16 Thread Dan Egli
On December 13, 2013, Michael Torrie wrote: > There's no legal obligation to do so though, provided they honor the > terms of the licenses of the source code they are distributing. Yea, I know. Doesn't mean I necessarily AGREE, but I do understand they aren't violating any laws other than my mor