Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-10-16 Thread Steve
Airswitch the name sure brings back memories doesn't it? Take a look at what I found... http://www.isp-planet.com/profiles/airswitch.html On 10/16/07, Matthew Frederico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/26/07, Sterling Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Are you talking about the American

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Frederico
On 9/26/07, Sterling Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you talking about the American Fork City FTTN Ethernet network? > > The American Fork system is quite different from the Utopia/iProvo system. > It was the old Airswitch network and it shows it's age every time a storm > comes up. And

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-28 Thread Bradley Dorner
Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:23:24 PM Subject: Re: Advantages of Fiber On 9/27/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Look at my example. > I have Utopia Fiber in my house in Orem, but my Internet service is > being provided b

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 9/27/07, Dennis Muhlestein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do you say it's lousy? Has it worsened or are you just saying > hows it could be so much faster? I tried to do VoIP on in for a while and the network wasn't nearly reliable enough. The connection is fast (I've even peaked at 15Mbps d

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-28 Thread Brian Beardall
at a meeting of a state legislative committee and a state senator > from Spanish Fork said he had seen no advantages of fiber in American > Fork. So I have come to this list to find out if his assessment is > correct or what went wrong in Spanish Fork. Do you know of businesses > or

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steve wrote: > The information revolution, is the next major revolution. And just > like the industrial revolution that proceeded it, it will have major > effects which will be felt for centuries to come. > > Communities which recognize this fact will be able to take advantage > of this fact and

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 16:52 -0600, Nicholas Leippe wrote: > Me: "Can I get a static IP" > SF: "How many do you want? Me: "Can I get a few more static IPs?" SF: "Nope." This was last week. I think the service is pretty good. The value is there. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.fre

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Barlow
On 9/27/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Without going into too much detail, I got into a Comcast style billing > dispute with them. > They shut off service. So I called Xmission and had service back on > in 30 minutes, with Xmission as my carrier. > I'm happy :) > > On 9/27/07, Scott Barl

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Steve
Without going into too much detail, I got into a Comcast style billing dispute with them. They shut off service. So I called Xmission and had service back on in 30 minutes, with Xmission as my carrier. I'm happy :) On 9/27/07, Scott Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/27/07, Steve <[EMAIL PR

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Barlow
On 9/27/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Look at my example. > I have Utopia Fiber in my house in Orem, but my Internet service is > being provided by Xmission, Xmission is doing so over that Utopia > Fiber. Prior to Xmission, I had MStar. That is some reply Steve. Very impressive! I

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Steve
It looks like a strawman argument to me. In the case of Spanish Fork, they are providing service and infrastructure. In the case of Utopia they are only providing infrastructure and allowing third parties to provide service over that infrastructure which is the true genius of the idea. Look at my

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Kyle Waters
Nicholas Leippe wrote: Compare to Comcast (when I was in California, so maybe it's not fair): Me: "I'm having connection troubles" Comcast, after waiting on hold for 30 minutes: "reboot your modem, sir" Comcast, after reboot does nothing: "I'm sorry sir, I can't help you. Let me schedule for a

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Thursday 27 September 2007, Kyle Waters wrote: > I think he was just comparing it to UTOPIA. Spanish Fork was being used > as an example(by senator stephenson) of why the state should ban all > cities from bonding for telecommunications infrastructure. I need > counter arguments :). Counter a

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Kyle Waters
Dennis Muhlestein wrote: That's correct. You can't get fiber to your home in Sp'ork. The senator in question is just trying to justify the decisions the city made years ago when they committed to a city-wide cable network. It's lousy but it's cheap. We live in AF now, but had moved ther

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Dennis Muhlestein
> That's correct. You can't get fiber to your home in Sp'ork. The > senator in question is just trying to justify the decisions the city > made years ago when they committed to a city-wide cable network. > > It's lousy but it's cheap. We live in AF now, but had moved there from SF. I had SFCN a

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-27 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 9/26/07, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My best guess would be fiber to the neighborhood and coax to the home. That's correct. You can't get fiber to your home in Sp'ork. The senator in question is just trying to justify the decisions the city made years ago when they committed to a city-

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-26 Thread Kyle Waters
Sterling Jacobson wrote: Are you talking about the American Fork City FTTN Ethernet network? The American Fork system is quite different from the Utopia/iProvo system. It was the old Airswitch network and it shows it's age every time a storm comes up. And it wasn't targeted at business so most

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-26 Thread Steve
> > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Waters > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:40 PM > > To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List > > Subject: Advantages of Fiber > > > > I wa

Re: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-26 Thread Steve
e- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Waters > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:40 PM > To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List > Subject: Advantages of Fiber > > I was at a meeting of a state legislative committee and a state senator > f

RE: Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-26 Thread Sterling Jacobson
ness areas around Home Depot in AF don't even have the option. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Waters Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:40 PM To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List Subject: Advantages of Fiber I was at

Advantages of Fiber

2007-09-26 Thread Kyle Waters
I was at a meeting of a state legislative committee and a state senator from Spanish Fork said he had seen no advantages of fiber in American Fork. So I have come to this list to find out if his assessment is correct or what went wrong in Spanish Fork. Do you know of businesses or people