Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-12 Thread Erin Sharmahd
> The X5 hardware is also Rockbox-compatible (as are older iPods, if I > understand correctly). The only ipods that are *not* rockbox-compatible (as of a week ago when i last had a chance to look) are the 2nd generation nano (encrypted boot-partition), 80GB video ipod (they didn't know why yet),

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Doran Barton
Daniel C. wrote: On 1/11/07, Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know one person who bought one. Their only purchasing criterion was to get something that wasn't an iPod. I could have given them a few more choices if they had asked me, but oh, well. :) I'd like something that isn't an

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Daniel C.
On 1/11/07, Zach Wily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You know someone who bought a Zune? I have yet to meet such a person. zach There are at least two of them: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/01/03 /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/opt

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Hill, Greg
> On 1/11/07, Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know one person who bought one. Their only purchasing criterion was > > to get something that wasn't an iPod. I could have given them a few > > more choices if they had asked me, but oh, well. :) > > I'd like something that isn't an iP

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Dave Smith
Daniel C. wrote: On 1/11/07, Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Their only purchasing criterion was to get something that wasn't an iPod. I'd like something that isn't an iPod. Suggestions? iPhone maybe? /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Dave Smith
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 02:54:46PM -0700, Zach Wily wrote: You know someone who bought a Zune? I have yet to meet such a person. A kid in my neighborhood knows another kid who bought one. In his words, the Zune is "so freaking tight!" I really don't know what that means, but I think it'

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:02:28PM -0700, Daniel C. wrote: > On 1/11/07, Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I know one person who bought one. Their only purchasing criterion was > >to get something that wasn't an iPod. I could have given them a few > >more choices if they had asked me, b

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Daniel C.
On 1/11/07, Andrew McNabb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know one person who bought one. Their only purchasing criterion was to get something that wasn't an iPod. I could have given them a few more choices if they had asked me, but oh, well. :) I'd like something that isn't an iPod. Suggestion

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 02:54:46PM -0700, Zach Wily wrote: > > You know someone who bought a Zune? I have yet to meet such a person. I know one person who bought one. Their only purchasing criterion was to get something that wasn't an iPod. I could have given them a few more choices if they had

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-11 Thread Zach Wily
Microsoft is renowned for failing miserably the first few times but coming out ahead in the end (whether fairly or not). The same could have been said about Windows, Internet Explorer, MSN, or Office. Not that *everything* Microsoft does is doomed to succeed, such as Bob. But you can't count them

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-10 Thread Erin Sharmahd
> That's the thing though - itunes *is* the iPod. I cannot connect and > sync my iPod to anything but iTunes. Therefore, if I want to download > a song that is DRM'd to work only on Microsoft products, I cannot play > or sync it on my iPod. If I want to play a song that is DRM'd to work > with t

Re: don't forget nokia (Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!)

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Brad Midgley wrote: I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release of the phones. For now I can only drool. in a subtle way it's a real step forward as it will be the first iPod with blu

don't forget nokia (Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!)

2007-01-09 Thread Brad Midgley
Jonathan > I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. > Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release > of the phones. For now I can only drool. in a subtle way it's a real step forward as it will be the first iPod with bluetooth. it remains to be seen

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Daniel C.
On 1/9/07, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, but you lose quality by ripping CDs after already downloading them. I'm a sound-quality freak, so as close to the original sound is very important to me. Jesse In that case, you should be concerned about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread garth
> I'm a sound-quality freak, so as close to the original sound is very important to me. My ipod plays lps just fine. -- Garth If I were to wish for anything, I should not wish for wealth and power, but for the passionate sense of potential - for the eye which, ever young and ardent, se

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Corey Edwards
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 14:42 -0800, Hill, Greg wrote: > > Microsoft is set to launch IP TV, so maybe Zune will eventually do > > what the iPhone does, with ipTV service to boot. Time will tell... > > Zune won't ever do anything well. It'll die a drawn-out and painful > death. Microsoft is renown

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Hill, Greg
> Yes, but you lose quality by ripping CDs after already downloading > them. I'm a sound-quality freak, so as close to the original sound is > very important to me. No, you buy the actual CD and rip it. Not burning a CD from downloaded mp3s and then re-ripping it. Or, eMusic offers non-DRM mp3s

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Jesse Stay wrote: On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree, I have been wanting a good all-in-one device for 5+ years now and there are some good ones. This one comes closest now. I am sure the future will hold even more techie goodness, but for now,

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Hill, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You rip your own CDs with iTunes or whatever else, or download them from peer-to-peer or eMusic if you want to stay legal. iTunes does not add DRM to self-ripped CDs; it only adds them to ones purchased from the ITMS. Yes, but you lose quality b

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Hill, Greg
> Yes, but how do you get the non-DRM'd MP3s and AAC/MP4s? You have to > get them from some other application (at least if you're to get them > illegally), which just adds more complexity to it. iTunes is the only > app that will sync with your iPod unfortunately, so it forces you into > iTunes f

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Hill, Greg
> That's the thing though - itunes *is* the iPod. I cannot connect and > sync my iPod to anything but iTunes. Therefore, if I want to download > a song that is DRM'd to work only on Microsoft products, I cannot play > or sync it on my iPod. If I want to play a song that is DRM'd to work > with t

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree, I have been wanting a good all-in-one device for 5+ years now and there are some good ones. This one comes closest now. I am sure the future will hold even more techie goodness, but for now, the iPhone is a dream come true for me.

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Roberto Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use gtkpod. Works well for me. Yes, but see my comments about the Xbox - I still need something that will sync with the Xbox that settles as my central music repository. I could probably set up some sort of round-about way to get these from

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Jesse Stay wrote: I've done this before with an iPod Mini. It worked for my needs, but it still took more time to constantly manage my playlists to contain what would fit, and what I wanted to listen to at the time. It's nice now with a 40Gb version that I can decide what

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Roberto Mello
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:23:46PM -0700, Jesse Stay wrote: > > That's the thing though - itunes *is* the iPod. I cannot connect and > sync my iPod to anything but iTunes. Therefore, if I want to download I use gtkpod. Works well for me. > with the iPod and iTunes, I cannot play or stream it t

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The fact that it would take you 3-4 days straight 24/7 of listening to music to even get through 4gb of your music probably does not matter to you then. =) I also would love to have the device hold all my music, just so that I would not need

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Gary Thornock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- "Hill, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to admit, I had absolutely no anticipation for the > iPhone, but man does it look sweet. I might have to switch to > Cingular when my current contract expires. That would be my > first Apple

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Hill, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It isn't meant to replace the iPod. It can connect to an iPod and play songs off it if you want. It's mainly meant to be a pocket pc/phone, but one that works well with all of the other apple products (it says it also syncs with PCs, which is nic

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Gary Thornock
--- "Hill, Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to admit, I had absolutely no anticipation for the > iPhone, but man does it look sweet. I might have to switch to > Cingular when my current contract expires. That would be my > first Apple product; my wife will never let me live it down > (sh

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Louis Zirkel wrote: Jesse Stay wrote: On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nah - I'm holding out until they either a) release a 40Gb version like my ipod, b) release a DRM-free version or version that is compatible with my Xbox, or c) the Zune comes out

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Jesse Stay wrote: On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release of the phones. For now I can only drool. Nah - I'm holding out unt

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Louis Zirkel
Jesse Stay wrote: > On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah - I'm holding out until they either a) release a 40Gb version like > my ipod, b) release a DRM-free version or version that is compatible > with my Xbox, or c) the Zune comes out with a phone version with above > featu

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Bryan Sant wrote: On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release of the phones. For now I can only drool. Are they going to suppor

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Hill, Greg
be missing something here. Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jesse Stay > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:27 PM > To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! >

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Daniel C.
On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! http://bluesun7.com/jonathan/?p=39 Sorry, just had to share. Jonathan http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif Seriously. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsub

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jesse Stay
On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release of the phones. For now I can only drool. Nah - I'm holding out until they either a) release a 40Gb version

Re: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Bryan Sant
On 1/9/07, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am just glad I held off getting a new iPod, Phone, and PDA. Unfortunately, I have to wait until June for them to start the release of the phones. For now I can only drool. Jonathan Are they going to support other service providers? Cin

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
f Of Jonathan Duncan Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:47 PM To: Provo Linux Users Group Subject: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! http://bluesun7.com/jonathan/?p=39 Sorry, just had to share. Jonathan /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubs

RE: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Hill, Greg
Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Duncan > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:47 PM > To: Provo Linux Users Group > Subject: Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! > > Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! > > http://bluesun7.

Apple Computers, Inc. is no more!

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Duncan
Apple Computers, Inc. is no more! http://bluesun7.com/jonathan/?p=39 Sorry, just had to share. Jonathan /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */