Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Ryan Moore
I made it out there, and had a similar experience. The march to the fence to tie the red, white and blue ribbons was particularly nice. I was disheartened at first by the wide variety of opinions coming from disparate groups, but the fact that everyone was able to focus on the core issue of our fou

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Barry Roberts
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Doug Hales wrote: > Here's the KSL one: > > http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25870366&nid=148&title=protestors-rally-near-nsa-data-center-for-4th-amendment-rights&fm=home_page&s_cid=queue-14 > > Thanks! I still think the Fox story is better, but KSL has a photo with my son

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Doug Hales
> > What did you see in the news? I saw Richard Piatt and a ksl camera, > > but I can't find a story on ksl.com. > > NM. Googled it myself: > http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56543985-78/data-utah-center-nsa.html.csp > > http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/154642-jul

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Barry Roberts
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Barry Roberts wrote: > http://fox13now.com/2013/07/04/protest-calls-for-curse-on-utahs-nsa-facility/ > > I forgot about the "curse" (/me rolls eyes and sighs). This one says 150 at the protest but only 65 marchers: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/0

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Barry Roberts
imes.com/n3/154642-july-4th-nsa-protest-nsa-go-away-chants-around-us/ http://fox13now.com/2013/07/04/protest-calls-for-curse-on-utahs-nsa-facility/ I forgot about the "curse" (/me rolls eyes and sighs). /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailm

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-05 Thread Barry Roberts
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:55 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > Wow I wish I could have been there. I heard about it on the news. I was > walking down the stairs last night and tripped or slipped on something and > ended up with some damage to my leg. Not broken, but I won't be walking or > standing f

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-04 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Wow I wish I could have been there. I heard about it on the news. I was walking down the stairs last night and tripped or slipped on something and ended up with some damage to my leg. Not broken, but I won't be walking or standing for a few weeks either. Did anyone make it to the protest? On

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-04 Thread Paul Jones Dayton
Clinton was impeached because of politics. On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Gary Thornock wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: >>> But what about James Clapper? Shouldn't he be put on trial for perjury? >>> When someone lies to congress, that someone has lied to the Ame

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Gary Thornock
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > > But what about James Clapper?  Shouldn't he be put on trial for perjury? > > When someone lies to congress, that someone has lied to the American > > people.  Why isn't the Justice Department aggressively pursuing James > > Clapper?  I j

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Marsh
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Joshua Fenio wrote: > It's pretty sad when they'll indict a sports star for lying to Congress > about something that is completely irrelevant to the American public ( > http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500290_162-6787425.html ), but let a > bureaucrat > who clearly sho

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Fenio
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Barry Roberts wrote: > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1621 > > I assume there is "a law of the United States [which] authorizes an > oath to be administered" for testifying before Congress. But > searching the USC (again) is boring. > > It's pretty

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Barry Roberts
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: >> But what about James Clapper? Shouldn't he be put on trial for perjury? >> When someone lies to congress, that someone has lied to the American >> people. Why isn't the Justice Departme

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Merrill Oveson
> Good point. Is addressing Congress the same as testifying in court? > At the very least he should lose his job, for symbolic reasons if > nothing else. It should be. Otherwise why have anyone raise his/her arm to the square and swear to tell the truth? They really is no point. It seems to me

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Daniel C.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > But what about James Clapper? Shouldn't he be put on trial for perjury? > When someone lies to congress, that someone has lied to the American > people. Why isn't the Justice Department aggressively pursuing James > Clapper? I just don't

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Ryan Moore
I'll be there. Does anyone need a ride from Provo / Utah Valley area? On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > oops "wants him extradited..." They don't care about me. In fact, it must > be terribly boring spying on me. > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrot

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Lol evidently not anymore :) On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > oops "wants him extradited..." They don't care about me. In fact, it must > be terribly boring spying on me. > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > > > Director of National Intelligenc

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Merrill Oveson
oops "wants him extradited..." They don't care about me. In fact, it must be terribly boring spying on me. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > Director of National Intelligence James Clapper lied to congress. > > > http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/07/dni_clapper_so

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Merrill Oveson
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper lied to congress. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/07/dni_clapper_sorry_i_lied_about_nsa_snooping.html So Edward Snowden is being aggressive pursued. The US wants me extradited back to the US to be put on trial. But what about James Clapper

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Fenio
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: > Sorry to hear your daughter is sick. In my mind that is even more > important news than the NSA thing. > I'm sure I speak for the rest of us when I say that our hearts & prayers > are with you and your family at this time and we hope all is

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Daniel C.
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Joshua Fenio wrote: > This is true, but no reason to pass up protesting it again! Yeah, I should have said more. The guy in the article comes off as a little bit tinfoil hattish, but that doesn't make him wrong. It looks like there's one in Boston, so I'll be th

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Sorry to hear your daughter is sick. In my mind that is even more important news than the NSA thing. I'm sure I speak for the rest of us when I say that our hearts & prayers are with you and your family at this time and we hope all is & continues to go well. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Joshu

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Joshua Fenio
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > > This is just plain wrong. USA Today ran a story about the NSA's > spying seven years ago: > http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm > This information has been public for a long time. People just didn't > pay atten

Re: NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread Daniel C.
"The NSA has not been truthful about domestic spying on everyday citizens until Edward J. Snowden, a now-former NSA employee, released information about the scope of domestic surveillance." This is just plain wrong. USA Today ran a story about the NSA's spying seven years ago: http://usatoday30.u

NSA protest?

2013-07-03 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I saw this in todays Daily Herald. http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/resident-plans-protest-against-utah-nsa-for-independence-day/article_6a7a415b-dfad-5de9-ba01-2a2708eaac9b.html I'm going to try and attend, anyone else coming along? /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubs