Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Coates
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:41 PM, William Attwood wattw...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, with the Mean Time to Failure (MTF) of these devices, if you purchase it and expect everything to work fine for years, you're dreaming. Based on the age of the device, the MTF is coming up or passed on multiple

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Scott Edwards
On Apr 30, 2010 8:08 AM, Josh Coates jcoa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:41 PM, William Attwood wattw...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, with the Mean Time to Failure (MTF) of these devices, if you purchase it and expect ever... not to be pedantic or anything, but it's MTTF, not MTF.

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Scott Edwards
Woops. My phone got sluggish there and clicked reply and send instead of what I expected. Sorry about the unneeded noise :) Scott. Ps, I don't know how to bottom post from this device. On Apr 30, 2010 8:08 AM, Josh Coates jcoa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:41... Honestly,

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/30/2010 7:07 AM, Josh Coates wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:41 PM, William Attwoodwattw...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, with the Mean Time to Failure (MTF) of these devices, if you purchase it and expect everything to work fine for years, you're dreaming. Based on the age of the device,

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Coates
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Tod Hansmann t...@todandlorna.com wrote: In some circles, it's Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF). um, no. again, not to be pedantic, but MTBF is entirely different than MTTF. -josh /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe:

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/30/2010 9:46 AM, Josh Coates wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Tod Hansmann t...@todandlorna.com mailto:t...@todandlorna.com wrote: In some circles, it's Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF). um, no. again, not to be pedantic, but MTBF is entirely different than MTTF. -josh

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Tod Hansmann t...@todandlorna.com wrote: Again, I /totally/ concede that they're different, in the repair/replace detail.  You know that, and I know that, but most people don't.  Now PLUG knows, though. I know nothing about it. I only know of Mean Time

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 4/30/2010 10:08 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: I know nothing about it. I only know of Mean Time Between Win (MTBW). Gabe Gabe's MTBW is 23.7 minutes. Mostly Peggle. -Tod Hansmann /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-30 Thread Matthew Walker
On Fri, April 30, 2010 10:11 am, Tod Hansmann wrote: On 4/30/2010 10:08 AM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: I know nothing about it. I only know of Mean Time Between Win (MTBW). Gabe Gabe's MTBW is 23.7 minutes. Mostly Peggle. Stuart's MTBW is 0 seconds. He's ALWAYS winning. -- Matthew Walker

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-28 Thread Joe C
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Nicholas Leippe n...@leippe.com wrote: Yes, hard drives and optical drives are cheap and easy to replace, but video chips are not. So, expecting to replace a hard drive or optical drive in a used laptop is one thing, but the motherboard is quite another.

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-28 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:20 -0600, Joe C wrote: Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but it is slightly easier to fix because he got the NVIDIA GPU instead of the Intel GPU. The Intel GPU is integrated while the NVIDIA GPU is listed as discrete video card. Of course that does mean that you have to

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-28 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.org wrote: My T61p's video is also listed as discrete but when my nVidia chip died, the entire motherboard had to be replaced. Right, discrete doesn't mean user replaceable. Just means it's a separate chip. well.. Unless you are

OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread Stephen Ward
I've decided it's time to hop aboard the Mac Hype Train and get me a MacBook Pro. Am I crazy? Probably. Regardless, the bank account will appreciate whatever alleviation it can find, and thus I find myself selling my trusty Dell Inspiron 1520. I bought it brand new about 2.5 years ago. It

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread Nicholas Leippe
Not trying to derail your sale--but merely clarify: Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 128 MB Would this be the same Nvidia 8400M which is defective in the HP dv9000 series, prone to overheating, and fated to failure (not if, but when--usually after any warranty is out)? Or are the Dell

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread Stephen Ward
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 128 MB Would this be the same Nvidia 8400M which is defective in the HP dv9000 series, prone to overheating, and fated to failure (not if, but when--usually after any warranty is out)? Or are the Dell parts from a different batch? I was never aware

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread Nicholas Leippe
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1028703/nvidia-g84-g86-bad http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/b/direct2dell/archive/2008/09/12/nvidia-gpu-update-limited-warranty-enhancement-details.aspx It looks like at the time of the above, the 1520 was not included in the warranty extension,

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread William Attwood
Honestly, with the Mean Time to Failure (MTF) of these devices, if you purchase it and expect everything to work fine for years, you're dreaming. Based on the age of the device, the MTF is coming up or passed on multiple items. It's a used laptop, it's cheap, and can be used and fixed as needed.

Re: OT: Dell Laptop For Sale

2010-04-27 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:41 PM, William Attwood wattw...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, with the Mean Time to Failure (MTF) of these devices, if you purchase it and expect everything to work fine for years, you're dreaming.  Based on the age of the device, the MTF is coming up or passed on