Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Charles Curley on Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:29:39 MST: > > - AFAIK Postfix does not consult resolv.conf; it talks to DNS > directly. > > Oh. How does it find a name server to talk to without > /etc/resolv.conf? Maybe it talks directly to the nameserver via other me

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Steven Alligood
Michael L Torrie wrote: Steven Alligood wrote: Anyone have any real reasons for not using sendmail? Ease of configuration, and virtual users. That's about it. I use postfix for my personal mail server for these reasons. Sendmail does not support virtual users in the same sense as an

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Michael L Torrie
Steven Alligood wrote: > Anyone have any real reasons for not using sendmail? Ease of configuration, and virtual users. That's about it. I use postfix for my personal mail server for these reasons. Sendmail does not support virtual users in the same sense as any of the other common MTAs. Like

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Steven Alligood
Jonathan Ellis wrote: On 12/20/07, Steven Alligood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So what on earth is wrong with sendmail? http://www.google.com/search?q=sendmail+vulnerabilities OK, that's weak. Try: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+vulnerabilities Or: http://www.google.com/s

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Joshua Simpson
On Dec 20, 2007 10:19 AM, Jonathan Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/20/07, Steven Alligood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what on earth is wrong with sendmail? > > http://www.google.com/search?q=sendmail+vulnerabilities > > Nowadays Sendmail security is less of factor compared to the ho

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On 12/20/07, Steven Alligood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what on earth is wrong with sendmail? http://www.google.com/search?q=sendmail+vulnerabilities /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Steven Alligood
I have or have had working sendmail systems. Maybe I should just put sendmail on all my Ubuntu machines. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's not go saying something we're going to regret later. Friends don't let friends install sendmail. So what on earth is wrong with sendmail? Sure, it has a

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Corey Edwards
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 10:29 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:19:10PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > > - Setting up MX records isn't hard and may pay off in stability. > > So I need an MX record as well as an A name for each machine? Yucch. No you don't. The RFC says to lo

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Shane Hathaway
Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:19:10PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: >> - AFAIK Postfix does not consult resolv.conf; it talks to DNS directly. > > Oh. How does it find a name server to talk to without > /etc/resolv.conf? Good point. Now it's less clear to me exactly how Postf

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:19:10PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Postfix *is* supposed to relay. The postfix instance is running on > > phoenix, and the mail is addressed to root, which phoenix has aliased > > as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ah, ok. Some thoughts: > > - You m

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Charles Curley wrote: > Postfix *is* supposed to relay. The postfix instance is running on > phoenix, and the mail is addressed to root, which phoenix has aliased > as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, ok. Some thoughts: - You might be able avoid the issue by changing the root alias to point to '[EMAIL PROT

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 01:55:50PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Peter McNabb wrote: > > > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > >>> This should work once "dig mx charlesc" works on 192.168.1.3. Postfix >

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Peter McNabb wrote: > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: >>> This should work once "dig mx charlesc" works on 192.168.1.3. Postfix >>> looks first for an MX record rather than an A record. >> >> It does? I've

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: >> Charles Curley wrote: >>> I set up bind9 on an Ubuntu box several weeks ago. Now, email on two >>> Ubuntu machines is broken. I get, e.g. >>> >>> Dec 17 09:50:58 phoenix postfix/smtp[436]: 08D2A16A0E4: >>> t

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Peter McNabb
On Dec 17, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: Charles Curley wrote: I set up bind9 on an Ubuntu box several weeks ago. Now, email on two Ubuntu machines is broken. I get, e.g. Dec 17 09:50:58 phoenix postfix/smtp[436]: 08D

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > I set up bind9 on an Ubuntu box several weeks ago. Now, email on two > > Ubuntu machines is broken. I get, e.g. > > > > Dec 17 09:50:58 phoenix postfix/smtp[436]: 08D2A16A0E4: > > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, o

Re: Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Charles Curley wrote: > I set up bind9 on an Ubuntu box several weeks ago. Now, email on two > Ubuntu machines is broken. I get, e.g. > > Dec 17 09:50:58 phoenix postfix/smtp[436]: 08D2A16A0E4: > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=8152, > delays=8142/0.01/10/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=

Oddball DNS issue: won't resolve hostname alone.

2007-12-17 Thread Charles Curley
I set up bind9 on an Ubuntu box several weeks ago. Now, email on two Ubuntu machines is broken. I get, e.g. Dec 17 09:50:58 phoenix postfix/smtp[436]: 08D2A16A0E4: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=8152, delays=8142/0.01/10/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not