Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-23 Thread Levi Pearson
Corey Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > In theory, I think that's not a bad idea. I'm not personally afraid of > irradiated meat. Despite that, I don't think irradiation is a good > practice. People and companies will start treating irradiation as a > silver bullet. We already have issues wit

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-23 Thread Corey Edwards
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:56 -0700, Michael L Torrie wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:41 -0700, Brandon Beattie wrote: > > The rats immune systems were so weak because the irradiated food they > > were used to was so pure that the body couldn't handle typical bacteria > > or other germs in regular

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel C.
On 2/22/07, Jacob Albretsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just as long as it wasn't "astrologer" That's what I typed first, actually =( /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Jacob Albretsen
On Thursday 22 February 2007 18:22, Daniel C. wrote: > On 2/22/07, Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "astronomist"??? > > I knew that sounded odd. But my spell checker didn't complain, so I let it > go. Just as long as it wasn't "astrologer" /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.fre

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel C.
On 2/22/07, Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "astronomist"??? I knew that sounded odd. But my spell checker didn't complain, so I let it go. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 12:28:37PM -0700, Daniel C. wrote: > On 2/22/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Moore (the founding member of Greenpeace, not the > xylophone-playing astronomist) has a lot to say on the issue of > environmentalist insanity: > "astronomist"??? Anyway

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Ryan Byrd
No, the underground lab by the Eyring Science Center and the Kimball tower holds a particle accelerator. I've been down there, there's not much to see. On the other hand, the nuclear reactor was in another lab buried in the hill south of the Benson building. I think you can still see the entrance

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel C.
On 2/22/07, Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Given this, I wonder why people object to pebble bed reactors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor They seem like a dream come true for environmentalists, yet Greenpeace seems to hate nuclear reactors in all forms. I don't get i

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
Some fun educational videos on the subject: A is for Atom - http://www.archive.org/details/isforAto1953 Radioactive Fallout and Shelter - http://www.archive.org/details/radioactive_fallout_and_shelter Duck and Cover - http://www.archive.org/details/DuckandC1951 - Andrew /* PLUG: http://plug.org

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Levi Pearson
Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Given this, I wonder why people object to pebble bed reactors. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor > > They seem like a dream come true for environmentalists, yet Greenpeace > seems to hate nuclear reactors in all forms. I don't get it

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:14 -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > Daniel C. wrote: > > "We self-irradiate ourselves at 40 millirems (a unit for measuring > > small doses of radiation) per year because of the potassium 40 we > > carry in our bodies. "[In] double beds, you know your spouse will > > irradiat

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Daniel C. wrote: "We self-irradiate ourselves at 40 millirems (a unit for measuring small doses of radiation) per year because of the potassium 40 we carry in our bodies. "[In] double beds, you know your spouse will irradiate you to about 2 or 3 millirems a year," McGaffigan said. "These are dose

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 2/21/07, Michael Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The location of the reactor was on the south end of campus, partway up the hill below the Benson Building. I believe there are some remains of the structure there to this day. Most people who see it assume it's a storage shed for the gardenin

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 2/22/07, Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/22/07, Daniel C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, question. I have always been under the impression that being > exposed to radiation does not make you radioactive, just like being > exposed to light doesn't make you glow. Is this t

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:50 -0700, Alex Esplin wrote: > What kinds of things do we know??? My cat's breath smells like cat food. -- Stuart Jansen e-mail/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] google talk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "However beautiful the strategy, you should

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 2/22/07, Daniel C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, question. I have always been under the impression that being exposed to radiation does not make you radioactive, just like being exposed to light doesn't make you glow. Is this true? That depends entirely on the type of radiation. If I w

Re: [OT] Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:41 -0700, Brandon Beattie wrote: > The rats immune systems were so weak because the irradiated food they > were used to was so pure that the body couldn't handle typical bacteria > or other germs in regular food? I believe you are correct. Based on that anecdote, I think

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Alex Esplin
What kinds of things do we know??? -- Alex Esplin /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Brandon Beattie
e. I've never heard of anyone > > > refusing to play squash at the University of Chicago. > > > > So, my real question - does irradiating food to sterilize it make the > > food itself radioactive, or increase its radioactivity? > > Nope. You're confu

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Brian Hawkins
rly run and cleaned up, it shouldn't be an issue. I've never heard of anyone refusing to play squash at the University of Chicago. So, my real question - does irradiating food to sterilize it make the food itself radioactive, or increase its radioactivity? I'm not

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Levi Pearson
gt; > So, my real question - does irradiating food to sterilize it make the > food itself radioactive, or increase its radioactivity? I'm not sure that simply being exposed to radiation would indeed increase your own radioactivity. If radioactivity is caused by radioactive elements, being ex

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Michael L Torrie
> So, my real question - does irradiating food to sterilize it make the > food itself radioactive, or increase its radioactivity? Nope. You're confusing your terms here. There are different forms of radiation. When I go outside, I am bombarded with a full spectrum of radiation. Eve

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel C.
issue. If the old BYU reactor was properly run and cleaned up, it shouldn't be an issue. I've never heard of anyone refusing to play squash at the University of Chicago. So, my real question - does irradiating food to sterilize it make the food itself radioactive, or increase its radioacti

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 07:38:23AM -0700, Daniel C. wrote: > On 2/21/07, Ryan Byrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Cougars might be slightly more radioactive than Wolverines. Here's why: > >there used to be a nuclear reactor on BYU campus and I was told that some > >buildings still have higher than a

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-22 Thread Daniel C.
On 2/21/07, Ryan Byrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cougars might be slightly more radioactive than Wolverines. Here's why: there used to be a nuclear reactor on BYU campus and I was told that some buildings still have higher than average background radiation. Rumor has that the walls in the Widtsoe

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Michael Torrie
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 19:13 -0700, Ryan Byrd wrote: > Cougars might be slightly more radioactive than Wolverines. Here's why: > there used to be a nuclear reactor on BYU campus and I was told that some > buildings still have higher than average background radiation. Rumor has > that the walls in th

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Ryan Byrd
Cougars might be slightly more radioactive than Wolverines. Here's why: there used to be a nuclear reactor on BYU campus and I was told that some buildings still have higher than average background radiation. Rumor has that the walls in the Widtsoe Building in particular make a Geiger counter go c

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 06:07:46PM -0700, Daniel C. wrote: > On 2/21/07, Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Dude, you're radioactive. > > Actually, everyone is, especially if you eat bananas. The potassium > in bananas, and other minerals in other fruits, is very slightly > radioactive.

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Daniel C.
Found it: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7445131 His name is Edward McGaffigan, one of the five commissioners of the NRC. "[He] says if there was one thing he could convince people of about nuclear power it's that radiation is everywhere, and its risks should be kept in pe

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Daniel C.
On 2/21/07, Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dude, you're radioactive. Actually, everyone is, especially if you eat bananas. The potassium in bananas, and other minerals in other fruits, is very slightly radioactive. NPR had an interview with the head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commis

Re: Radioactivity

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 12:39:27PM -0700, Steve wrote: > LOL, ok I digress. > > My opinion of SCOs senior level is that they are radioactive. Dude, you're radioactive. -- Charles Curley /"\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standa