Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Phil Waclawski
Well, I'm attending it in the hopes of learning about how some of these attacks work, and how to defend against them. Helps me teach my students better practices (and myself as well). To be honest, I had planned on having an old laptop with a brand new kubuntu install on it (no data I care about)

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread der.hans
Am 19. Apr, 2013 schwätzte Alan Dayley so: moin moin Alan, Why in the world would anyone actually attend a conference where you KNOW people are going to attack your electronics and data? Erasing everyone's It's in the city where people pay to let someone steal from them, so it fits the theme.

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Alan Dayley
Why in the world would anyone actually attend a conference where you KNOW people are going to attack your electronics and data? Erasing everyone's credit cards? For the lulz, I guess. It sounds like a bunch of very smart trolls getting together to see who can out-troll who. I would just be collater

Re: OT: firefox 20 does not display facebook correctly - a change.

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Brown
Yes, don't use their services. As long as your data is on their site, then they can change its appearance whenever they want. Read the ToS. Is there any way that one can achieve control and stability over one's own facebook page? - Until recently, firefox displayed facebook co

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Lisa Kachold
There's the "can't beat em, join em" approach? How about building a nice Droid smart phone just for the trip [say from Virgin Mobile with a quick root] and adding the Google Play Store blacklisted tools Network Spoofer

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Lisa Kachold
Any site you contact can become a Man in the Middle Target on a shared network. sslstrip will give the attacker targeting you (arp spoofing your connection between the router) a list of usernames, passwords and URL's for every sight you visit. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Ted Gould wrote:

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread Michael Havens
if you go to walmart specify you want the phones on verizon towers (if you want verizon towers) :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: > I am starting to hear good things about WalMarts Straight Talk plans which > are service provided by major carriers including Verizon.

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread Dazed_75
I am starting to hear good things about WalMarts Straight Talk plans which are service provided by major carriers including Verizon. http://voices.yahoo.com/wal-marts-straight-talk-cheapest-unlimited-cell-phone-11697774.html LinuxActionShow has been pusing Ting but part of that is likely that Tin

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread keith smith
I missed that,  Thanks!! Boost Mobile is using Sprint's network also.  I wonder if somehow these secondary markets are getting a different product, ie access to the network? Keith Smith --- On Fri, 4/19/13, Eric Cope wrote: From: Eric Cope Subject: Re: OT: Ting loo

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread Eric Cope
Sprint https://ting.com/devices/buy - see the last items. Eric On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:51 AM, keith smith wrote: > > What network are they on? > > > Keith Smith > > --- On *Fri, 4/19/13, j...@actionline.com * wrote: > > > From: j...@actionline.com > Subject: Re: OT

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread keith smith
You might want to take a roll of aluminum foil just in case What a funny thread Keith Smith --- On Fri, 4/19/13, Derek Trotter wrote: From: Derek Trotter Subject: Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice? To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, A

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread keith smith
What network are they on? Keith Smith --- On Fri, 4/19/13, j...@actionline.com wrote: From: j...@actionline.com Subject: Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option! To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, April 19, 2013, 10:12 AM > Ting is also an option. > > htt

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Derek Trotter
It seems to me that if I were to go, I should take the following precautions. Don't bring my cell phone. Find a pay phone. While at the event keep my credit card in a steel container such as an altoids tin. Bring cash just in case the altoids tin is not enough. Take notes using paper and p

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 09:16 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: > arpspoof [arp rarp nature of tcp/ip and the linux kernel] > sslstrip [sslstrip decode packets including auth/password and url - > run tool to get a list of everything victim sends out or accesses] So you're assuming that I wouldn't request t

Re: OT: Ting looks like a great option!

2013-04-19 Thread joe
> Ting is also an option. > > https://ting.com/ This looks like a great option for me! $15/month for all the cell, text, and data time I need. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to chang

Re: OT: firefox 20 does not display facebook correctly - a change.

2013-04-19 Thread joe
The subject problem has apparently been corrected. Facebook has apparently made some changes/corrections so that this problem that I previously reported is no longer a problem. This notice now appeared on my facebook page: "We've made some updates to how your timeline looks. Your posts and life

Re: OT: Boost Mobile

2013-04-19 Thread Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Ting is also an option. https://ting.com/ Gilbert On 4/18/2013 7:03 PM, keith smith wrote: Hi, Recently a friend told me he uses Boost Mobile. He told me his experience has been excellent. So I took a look. They claim the same network as Sprint. Mostly 3G from what I can tell. Their p

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Lisa Kachold
Do you know who you are asking/arguing with here? I might ask you to come to my hackfest and login to my AP, and I will show you ... Here's your research list: arpspoof [arp rarp nature of tcp/ip and the linux kernel] sslstrip [sslstrip decode packets including auth/password and url - run tool t

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 06:18 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: > If you take that Ubuntu install to DefCon and connect to the network > there, every place you connect with/to authenticate to/with will be > endangered. All of the sites you visit irregardless of protocol > (encryption) will provide login/pa

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Stephen
sounds like there are allot of people that attend to be a jerk to others... sheesh... On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Laugh! > > If you take that Ubuntu install to DefCon and connect to the network > there, every place you connect with/to authenticate to/with will be > end

Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?

2013-04-19 Thread Lisa Kachold
Laugh! If you take that Ubuntu install to DefCon and connect to the network there, every place you connect with/to authenticate to/with will be endangered. All of the sites you visit irregardless of protocol (encryption) will provide login/password and URL to others listening and MITM'ing. A VP