Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread James Dugger
I here what you are saying. My point is that the other infrastructure pieces create a check and a balance to the entire system. It is an internet cold war if you will. If Country XYZ forces the UN to require a member of ICANN to shut down access to a TLD in the US, Country XYZ and even the UN

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Keith Smith
What you described is why giving the Internet away is a bad idea. Right now the Internet is stable. If you have countries and businesses fighting over things, my fear is you and I will suffer. In it purist form we are all stake holders and each one of us benefit from what we know as the

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Keith Smith
For the most part you are talking network. Which is needed, however the real control comes with root server oversight. I would agree the network needs to improve. the U.N. will not own our U.S. Internet network. They may have some oversight which we can refuse at some time and just add

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Keith Smith
I probably should have been more forthcoming. What I was wondering is why can't we use the existing Internet infrastructure? What the U.N. would get is oversight of the root servers. If this fails, or even goes a little bad there might be an uprising and a new American Internet could be

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread James Dugger
I don't agree that names are not important. They aren't relative to computers but our human society and economics literally runs on name recognition in one way or another. Working for the largest registrant in the world I can tell you that name recognition is everything in the internet. I

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Lyle Tuttle
At 12:46 PM 8/30/2016, Steve Litt wrote: and sleazy little extortionists (the guy who registered coke.com). Maybe he was not (I don't know) a 'sleazy little extortionist", but someone like me, who, as a franchised Culligan Dealer, begged and pleaded with Culligan, Inc to register their domain

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 07:32:52 -0700 Eric Oyen wrote: > well, so long as you have IP addresses, names are not that important. > That is the key right there. since ICANN deals mostly with assigned > names, it should be easy to work around. > > now, this may be a tauter

Re: An Internet Giveaway to the U.N.

2016-08-30 Thread Eric Oyen
well, so long as you have IP addresses, names are not that important. That is the key right there. since ICANN deals mostly with assigned names, it should be easy to work around. now, this may be a tauter simplistic view of the problem and solution, but then, it's the simplest solutions that