While this article may not be factual, it is completely within the realm
of possibilities. This is a huge problem and there may be HUGE
consequences.
What I'd like to know is how these issues persisted for over 20 years
without detection. I assume Intel, AMD and the other chip manufactures
Something to consider is the the meltdown and spectre flaws are entirely
seperate than the management engine. Which has known vulnerabilities.
On Jan 11, 2018 8:41 AM, wrote:
>
>
> While this article may not be factual, it is completely within the realm
> of possibilities. This is a huge problem
Two is one and one is none. A single flaw can get patched. Multiple flaws and
over lapping issues can be pointed out as mistakes and at least one method
might still work.
Other than dlink, no one is stupid enough to declare their vulnerabilities and
attacks. Right?
#Super secret anti iran fla
As mentioned earlier, I've done my share of ... um, looking for flaws in design
of operating systems back when I was in college. (What, 1976?)
We discovered some bad flaws in the design of the . How long had the
Univac been around? I don't know, but a while. Unless someone with WAY too
much
There is no conspiracy here. 23 years ago no one thought about attack
vectors and how to take over machines. It is only recently that we are all
sensitized to this problem. Even though the tech world is sensitized to the
nature of exploits, companies still ship brand new products (e.g. Nest,
cars,
Cyber security didn’t exist until the past couple years? We have been hooking
up bugs to telegraphs since the civil war.
2016 wasn't the year we invented cyber security. ...
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
> There is no conspiracy here. 23 years ago no one thought about
Signals intelligence is believed to have been birthed in 1904.
But exploiting hardware isn't new. For military, police, or criminal intentions.
You work at Intel Mark? Lol
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:11 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
> There is no conspiracy here. 23 years ago no one thought about at
No, I don't work at Intel. I am, however, not a believer in all the
government conspiracy theories floating around the Internet.
Mark
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Aaron Jones wrote:
> Signals intelligence is believed to have been birthed in 1904.
>
> But exploiting hardware isn't new. For m
We had a silent helicopter we used in Vietnam to tap wires in cambodia.
We tapped wires miles under water during the cold war.
Russia built a listening device that used the vibrations of speech to power it
and hid it in a wooden award given to a diplomat. It was found because his maid
acciden
This is basic stuff. Kernel memory must be segregated and each
application's memory must be segregated. These are the basics of CPU
functionality. That is why I find theses issues perplexing. And it
leads me to one basic question. If these problems persisted since 1995,
how could these issue go
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>This is basic stuff. Kernel memory must be segregated and each ap
The Intel microcode that you need to update to go along with the
previous patches just hit.
https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3531-1/
Brian Cluff
On 01/09/2018 05:54 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
I just got security notifications that the patches for meltdown for
Ubuntu just hit.
https://wiki.ubuntu.c
While you may not be an agent for Kim Jong-un, it's completely within
the realm of possibilities. This is a huge problem and there may be
HUGE consequences.
Not so fun when YOU'RE the target of accusations masked as ambiguity,
is it?
There's a reason we were taught at the age of 10 not to spread
Wow, this group is viscous. Remind me never again to post *any* form of
opinion.
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Hmmmviscous, as in we are all a little dense? or vicious as in brutal?
Perhaps a little bit of both?? ;)
Nathan - my apologies if I have offended you, because that was not my
intentionjust trying to lighten the mood a little.
Mark
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Nathan O'Brennan
wrote:
The management engine has it's own issues, including not allowing non-signed
software to be installed or executed (read the FSF article for further details).
-eric
from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the "just the facts, Ma'am"
Dept.
On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Stephen Partington
There seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding the recently disclosed CPU
hardware issues...
A few points to consider:
1) This is a cache timing attack using speculative execution (a key performance
feature in the hardware) that exposes data (i.e. it's not an exploit to "take
over" a system);
lol, spell check is no match for my vocabulary!
I meant brutal. This group can be brutal.
On 2018-01-11 15:59, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Hmmmviscous, as in we are all a little dense? or vicious as in brutal?
> Perhaps a little bit of both?? ;)
>
> Nathan - my apologies if I have offended y
Thanks Joe.
You should blog an article about this cuz that was the best explanation for the
issue I have read so far.
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Joseph Sinclair
> wrote:
>
> There seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding the recently disclosed CPU
> hardware issues...
> A few points
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1O4GParMvzSODGh2e4yduAOmp7GMW-xSNuoatcvM5Df4/edit?usp=sharing
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Aaron Jones wrote:
> We had a silent helicopter we used in Vietnam to tap wires in
> cambodia.
>
> We tapped wires miles under water during the cold war.
[snip]
>
> But you don't believe someone could be tasked with purposefully
> adding a back door to som
Feel free to repost anywhere. I don't have a blog site I use; so no real place
to post a full article...
On 2018-01-11 07:24 PM, Aaron Jones wrote:
> Thanks Joe.
>
> You should blog an article about this cuz that was the best explanation for
> the issue I have read so far.
>
>> On Jan 11, 2
Yes. There were a couple of details I wanted but was not finding. Thank
you.
On Jan 11, 2018 7:24 PM, "Aaron Jones" wrote:
Thanks Joe.
You should blog an article about this cuz that was the best explanation for
the issue I have read so far.
> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Joseph Sinclair
wrote
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