Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
Well, yes and no. During the “dry months” it can be a little over efficient. During the 110 degree days with less than 5% humidity, it can maintain the place at 80-85 degrees. During the monsoon (especially this last week), it can be miserable, although cooler than outside. It was over 90 in

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss
If this is just for learning, do you want or need it to run 24/7/365? If not, you can shut it off when you don’t need it if you’re concerned about power. Note that a lot of old PCs have power supplies where the fans run all the time. They can end up consuming quite a bit of power. You might

Re: https://desertpy.com/

2021-07-21 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
hope they maintain the club.thanks.Greg On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 09:38:56 PM EDT, Austin Godber via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hi Greg, I am the organizer of DesertPy but have announced my intent to leave that role.  That transition is still ongoing so there is a lot of uncertainty in

Re: https://desertpy.com/

2021-07-21 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
thank you.I hope they maintain the club. On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 06:31:36 PM EDT, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hello,  Does anyone know if this group is still around?Besides the Linux user group are there any other tech groups like the php user group, java user group,

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Hi Eric, I assume you live in the valley? And you use a master cool evaporative cooler... Off topic question - Does your master cool, cool your house reasonably in the summer and more so during the monsoons? On 2021-07-21 15:50, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: Back when I ran a home

Re: https://desertpy.com/

2021-07-21 Thread Austin Godber via PLUG-discuss
Hi Greg, I am the organizer of DesertPy but have announced my intent to leave that role. That transition is still ongoing so there is a lot of uncertainty in how it will move forward. There are a few other (semi) active groups * https://www.meetup.com/NodeAZ/ *

Re: using a thumb drive as a partition.

2021-07-21 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
I use many of mine here as a write once and read many. Basically, my entire multimedia library (all legally acquired of course) sits on 5 256 GB drives. They are all USB thumb drives and the only time they are accessed is when I want to play a movie or music locally. They are almost as fast as

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less than

https://desertpy.com/

2021-07-21 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
Hello,  Does anyone know if this group is still around?Besides the Linux user group are there any other tech groups like the php user group, java user group, etc.. around?I have done a quick search but came up empty.thanks,Greg --- PLUG-discuss

Re: using a thumb drive as a partition.

2021-07-21 Thread Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss
Flash memory indeed has limited write cycles. However, by now it is unlikely that you'll encounter this within the normal lifetime of such a card. Usually, this is in the order of 100,000 write cycles today and SD cards include circuitry to manage wear-leveling, that is, spread out writes over the

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Michael via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:54:17 -0400 >$262 a YEAR. If you can't afford $22 more a month you need a less >expensive hobby. >Don't go out to eat one less time a month. Go to the movies one less >time a month. I'm sure you can figure out something else to do one >less

using a thumb drive as a partition.

2021-07-21 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Have they fixed the number of writes a drive cN TAKE? OR ELSE HOW MANY WRITES CAN an sd card take. I want to use it for LFS -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Had not thought of that. My home office is warm unless it is cold outside. On 2021-07-21 13:00, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: don't forget to factor in that a computer is a pretty efficient space heater. cost isn't all in power. a datacenter averages 40% of its costs (total costs)

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Making or consuming? On 2021-07-21 10:40, Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss wrote: Anime? A LOTTT of anime? On 7/21/21 10:34 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: I am curious... what could you be doing at home that might require a R730xd? On 2021-07-21 07:55, Snyder, Alexander J

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Thanks!! I've looked into that a bit. Might be a project for down the road. Right now I am using an old i3 laptop for testing. I have a i3 mini tower I was going to use, however I'm thinking a laptop will be about 25% of the electrical usage. I replaced the spinner with an SSD. I used

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Unfortunately that is not the case given I am adding a PHP hosting server. It for learning otherwise it would be in a data center. On 2021-07-21 10:32, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: Well if you think about it, before you decided to run your computer 24/7 you probably have been running

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss
don't forget to factor in that a computer is a pretty efficient space heater. cost isn't all in power. a datacenter averages 40% of its costs (total costs) in cooling. I'm sure that doesn't translate well for homes, but something to keep in mind if you're trying to get numbers at this level.

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss
Anime and Linux = a nerds best friend On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 10:40 AM Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Anime? A LOTTT of anime? > > On 7/21/21 10:34 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > > I am curious... what could you be doing at home that

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss
All the things Thanks, Alexander. Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 10:34 wrote: > > I am curious... what could you be doing at home that might require a > R730xd? > > > On 2021-07-21 07:55, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: > > I run a Dell R730xd, a switch, a hardware FW, a NAS

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss
I agree with Brian. On 7/21/21 10:38 AM, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: Get yourself a Raspberry pi 4, which should be more than powerful to learn on,  they only use 3.4 watts which should amount to just slightly more $2 per year, and when your done with your project you'll have a

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss
Anime? A LOTTT of anime? On 7/21/21 10:34 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: I am curious... what could you be doing at home that might require a R730xd? On 2021-07-21 07:55, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: I run a Dell R730xd, a switch, a hardware FW, a NAS and a 3000VA UPS. On

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
Get yourself a Raspberry pi 4, which should be more than powerful to learn on,  they only use 3.4 watts which should amount to just slightly more $2 per year, and when your done with your project you'll have a Raspberry PI... then you can make an any number of awesome things with it.  I must

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I am curious... what could you be doing at home that might require a R730xd? On 2021-07-21 07:55, Snyder, Alexander J wrote: I run a Dell R730xd, a switch, a hardware FW, a NAS and a 3000VA UPS. On 24/7, obviously. I barely notice the extra power on my monthly bill. Thanks, Alexander.

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
Well if you think about it, before you decided to run your computer 24/7 you probably have been running it about half that. Say 8-12 hours a day. So your actual cost is most likely only half of what you calculated. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 7:34 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I think there might be some on this list that are struggling and that is why they are here - cheep old hardware that runs Linux well. I need to watch my dollars and sense The reason for the question is I am building a home web PHP server... It is for learning. If it really cost $15 -

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I do not drink beer and I shave my head. I used to get a haircut every other week for $20. Yikes that is $520 a year We rarely eat out since it might be $40 for my wife and I at your garden variety Mexican restaurant. Went to Panda Express yesterday and it was $24 and change for 2

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
People spend about that a month for haircuts and I'm sure on beer. On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:34:01 AM EDT, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Hi, I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from home: Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
$262 a YEAR. If you can't afford $22 more a month you need a less expensive hobby. Don't go out to eat one less time a month. Go to the movies one less time a month. I'm sure you can figure out something else to do one less time a month. 1 On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 10:34 AM Keith Smith via

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread blake gonterman via PLUG-discuss
Aaron, It's a TP-Link Kasa 6 outlet strip I got off Amazon. Let's me monitor the actual wattage of the system and how much it's going to cost me to run. I can see daily, weekly, and monthly usage stats with it. I think it ran me about $50. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 8:44 AM Aaron Jones via

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss
Blake, what device do you use to measure the plug? > On Jul 21, 2021, at 8:19 AM, blake gonterman via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >  > I have a system running 24/7 pulling about 19kWh according to the plug I have > it on. The PSU is about 1650watts in total with about 950w used. > > > > >>

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread blake gonterman via PLUG-discuss
I have a system running 24/7 pulling about 19kWh according to the plug I have it on. The PSU is about 1650watts in total with about 950w used. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 8:08 AM Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > My SRP bill is $293.65 and we run our AC hard,

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss
My SRP bill is $293.65 and we run our AC hard, have fans going, and my wife leaves the blinds open all the time so I know we could save money there too. I am running a 24core ThreadRipper, 4bay NAS, 1 POE router, 1 non-POE router, HAM radio, laser printer, and 4 raspberry PI in a cluster with

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss
I run a Dell R730xd, a switch, a hardware FW, a NAS and a 3000VA UPS. On 24/7, obviously. I barely notice the extra power on my monthly bill. Thanks, Alexander. Sent from my Samsung S20+ 5G On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 07:34 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >

Electrical costs to run a home web server

2021-07-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Hi, I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from home: Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very