Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
bad typo... my daughter is 14 not 24 so I need something for kids. sorry about the typo On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:15 PM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > https://www.zybooks.com/catalog/programming-in-python-3/ > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 03

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
Python is a great first language, and there is no shortage of beginning Python books aimed at young beginners. I've never read a juvenalia programming book, except maybe pre-Visual Basic BASIC with the line numbers and goto-s for me, but at 14 she may be a bit old for them and you might be OK with

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Mike, In 1986 my manager gave me the only computer my department had. It was a CPM/DOS machine. It was portable and weighed probably 5lbs. I loaded DOS and was lost for a while. Not sure how I made that jump, however within a few months I was running dBaseIII on it and doing some programmi

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I was interested in BASH for her because I want her to get into cyber security. Would a juvensalia book be good for a 10 year old? On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 9:26 AM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Python is a great first language, and there is no shortage

Re: sudo cd... command not found?

2022-12-22 Thread Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
Here's a question System V or BSD ? lol When I started using Unix (Dec Ultrix) there was no bash, there was sh and csh and I could do so much more in csh. The thing I liked most was command line completion.and cdpath which I could type cd bin and change to /usr/local/bin instead of /bin or which ev

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
What does she want to do? On 2022-12-22 08:22, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: I was interested in BASH for her because I want her to get into cyber security. Would a juvensalia book be good for a 10 year old? On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 9:26 AM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote: Python is a

Re: sudo cd... command not found?

2022-12-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Thanks Dale, Worked!! Thanks!! I noticed it made me the root user. What is the difference between sudo -i and sudo su? In my research it appears that both change to user to root along with changing the UID. I've been using sudo -i to solver this issue for years while not fully understandin

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
The "what does she want to do?" is critical. One reason there's a shortage of programmers and an even bigger shortage of cybersecurity experts is that many people who could do these things would rather not do them, even if it means lower pay. Yes, a kid's intro-to-programming book would be just w

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
trent shipley via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 22 Dec 2022 07:26:18 -0700 >Python is a great first language, and there is no shortage of beginning >Python books aimed at young beginners. I've never read a juvenalia >programming book, except maybe pre-Visual Basic BASIC with the line >numbers and goto

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
That would have been the early 80's. When BASIC was not owned by Microsoft, when it was spelled BASIC for whatever compiler you used, and it had line numbers, and GOTOs. I started programming in a gifted program with a dumb impact printing terminal with an acoustic coupler you stuck a phone hands

4-year Programing and Analytics degree from Mesa CC

2022-12-22 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
Does anyone have any news about the Programming and Analytics 4 year program they are going to start in Fall 2023 at Mesa CC? Will it be a CS or CIS program, or neither? I got a call and was told it's got preliminary accreditation, but the MCCCD board doesn't even know if the fees will be differe

Re: 4-year Programing and Analytics degree from Mesa CC

2022-12-22 Thread Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss
I was one of the faculty who helped develop the four-year degree at MCC. It will be a computer information systems or CIS degree. The curriculum should be up and yes we do have hlc accreditation to get started fall of 2023. Not entirely sure if the prices will be different, but I am not heard of an

Re: BASH textbook for kids

2022-12-22 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
What about this book for a starter:https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Shell-Script-Programming-Meadors/dp/0619159200/ref=sr_1_1?crid=17G30RXKOVSVK&keywords=linux+shell+script+programming+book&qid=1671781328&sprefix=linux+shell+sc%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1 try and find it on abebooks.com for better price97806