Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-06 Thread kelly stephenson
Thanks all, I completely agree with you and you have confirmed my initial assessment of their system. Now the fun part, letting my client know they have wasted 2 years and several million dollars on a custom hardware/software solution that is terrible. On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 5:44 PM Michael Butash

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread Michael Butash
I remember seeing something like a 4 port switch pci card a few decades ago, but they're simply not useful anymore when you can buy a 4 port gig switch for 5 bucks from china now. Any other 2-4 port card treats them as standalone nics each, and really aren't meant to be bridged together on a

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen Partington
I'll have to look. But I think there are ethernet controllers with small switching fabric in them. That might be a level of scaling that would maybe work. On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:15 AM Donald Mac McCarthy wrote: > Kelly, > > Maybe I am missing something as to why this is a requirement. Is a

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread kelly stephenson
Awesome responses, I'm still digesting the information. The original ring idea was not mine but they decided to do this because of simplicity and redundancy, both are requirements. The system is an embedded device and they even made custom Ethernet "cards". When I initially looked at the

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread Michael Butash
Just in a joking "friends don't let friends do x" sort of way, and even that was more directed at the original author. You're right about RSTP, but the daisy chaining hosts thing is just bad mojo in general. Some random host between to others conversion gets wonky, you have to figure out which

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen Partington
It appears that some buttons were pushed. My initial reading did suggest rstp was very good to maintain switch to switch redundancy, which is what i initially thought. Re reading your initial email I am still very curious about why you were looking to use rstp as a nic to nic design. On Fri, Oct

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-05 Thread Michael Butash
I really don't get any anyone in their right mind would do this other than an experiment to say they can/did. Host ethernet chaining is not what (Rapid) Spanning Tree Protocol was designed for, and with modern (or old) switching, there is no reason to. As a network engineer for 20 years, it

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-04 Thread Snyder, Alexander J
That was a great explanation David, thanks! Wasn't my question, but I certainly learned a lot. Thanks, Alexander Sent from my Galaxy S10+ On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 19:08 David Schwartz wrote: > I’d advise against it without finding someone who’s already done it and is > willing to share the

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-04 Thread David Schwartz
I’d advise against it without finding someone who’s already done it and is willing to share the details about how they made it work, and what their throughput stats are like. (Their stats could be horrible, but they don’t know and don’t care simply because their needs are being met.) Loops may

Re: Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen Partington
I am still wrapping my head around why this was the root design. I am not sure what gains you have vs having a pair of switches for redundancy. time to research RSTP. On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 3:34 PM kelly stephenson wrote: > Looking for some networking advice from the group. > > The system I

Ethernet suggestions

2019-10-04 Thread kelly stephenson
Looking for some networking advice from the group. The system I have has several devices connected in a ring configuration using one Ethernet port IN and one Ethernet port out. The system uses RSTP for loop free operation. The idea is simplicity for installation, you just unplug and plugin a