On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:00:25 + (UTC)
David Schwartz wrote:
> What I will say is this:
>
> I’ve interviewed enough people in my time that I think I’ve noticed a
> pattern. I’m curious what you guys think.
>
> The higher the GPA, the less such people seem able to
I believe I am an exception to the 2.4GPA ‘rule’. And I have a few other minor
nits. See below.
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Subject: Re: Trent's projects
Well, I’m not going to argue with you over an analogy.
I believe there’s value in having a solid theoretical foundation in this field.
“Programming” is distinct from “software design,” and people with less of that
foundation in their background have to rely on things that are entirely based
in
I happened upon this YouTube video that talks about this very subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FioceDs7JA
On 2018-01-23 03:02, David Schwartz wrote:
> The fallacy here is that a HS dropout who's been building homes for 30 years
> could build a home as nice as any Architect just a
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:24:30 +
"Carruth, Rusty" wrote:
> > Once I advertised a position as my assistant programming a
> > substantial part of a medical management package. Entry level: I'd
> > teach em. We got several Comp-Sci grads from UCLA, and also several
> >
Wow! That's all I have to say. Well, ok, no I'll say a bit more.
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> I'd like to return to the concept of "run of the mill
On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:02:13 + (UTC)
David Schwartz wrote:
> The fallacy here is that a HS dropout who’s been building homes for
> 30 years could build a home as nice as any Architect just a couple of
> years out of school.
That's not the fallacy. Nobody said
Interesting premise David. Most intriguing. Basically what I take away
from your position is that without CS training one will be less capable
as a programmer. I can see your point and I have to ask, what about the
person who is a business programmer. What about the xBase developers of
last
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> ….
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> Schooling is best for people who hav
I’d like to gently disagree with this one statement, leaving the rest for
others to worry about:
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I see benefits of education and raw experience. And in the end, it will
depend on the individual and their drive to improve and learn. do not
learn well in a classroom setting. but give me some research sources and a
problem to solve I will figure it out and be able to set it up and work
The fallacy here is that a HS dropout who’s been building homes for 30 years
could build a home as nice as any Architect just a couple of years out of
school.
Perhaps. It goes on all around the world every day.
All Architects can pound nails.
But most run-of-the-mill construction workers
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 08:57:11 -0700
Aaron Jones wrote:
> The whole “you will be spiritually predisposed to coding” is stupid.
> No one wants a computer science person on the team because having a
> team of ten developers who can write crappy boiler plate code is
> faster
First thought: this is a terrible generalization. I don’t know who you’re
talking about as I don’t identify with it at all.
Second, I’d have to say your view of things is more a reflection of the horrid
“state-of-the-art” when it comes to web development.
You clearly weren’t around in the
I would second this in a big way.
On Jan 21, 2018 10:29 AM, "Mark Phillips"
wrote:
> Trent,
>
> Is anybody looking for an entry-level contributor to an opensource
>> project?
>>
>> One way to get your feet wet in any open source project is to help with
> the
Trent,
Is anybody looking for an entry-level contributor to an opensource project?
>
> One way to get your feet wet in any open source project is to help with
the documentation. Download the code, and then go through the documentation
to see if it does what it is supposed to do. Are there new
The whole “you will be spiritually predisposed to coding” is stupid. No one
wants a computer science person on the team because having a team of ten
developers who can write crappy boiler plate code is faster than 9 shitty
programmers being chased around by a good developer.
I have a website
I see value in both. For me the passion/talent comes when someone thinks to
write something to do something that they want done. Opposed to just
looking for someone or something to do it for you.
On Jan 21, 2018 8:43 AM, wrote:
> I'm intrigued by your comments that
I'm intrigued by your comments that one needs a computer science
foundation to be more effective as a programmer.
In this article
[http://fortune.com/2015/09/01/computer-science-degree/], it is reported
that a start up CEO says "He prefers people who have an innate passion
and talent for coding
Im too sick to be coherent but just do it. Even if all you do is write
documentation or fix misspelled words. Get started. First step of millions
miles journey or something.
> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:18 PM, David Schwartz
> wrote:
>
> Back in the 80’s there was a
Back in the 80’s there was a library I used that I really loved. The author was
clearly dedicated to supporting it and was very active on their discussion
forum, and was constantly helping people fix problems they had with the code.
(It was a ‘C’ library.) He was constantly releasing updates at
At present I am working through an introduction to R and an introduction to
Haskell. Both are fun, but Haskell is more fun--and harder.
I'm about a quarter of the way through each textbook.
I'm also in DES's Vocational Rehab, because I have three disabilities, two
master's degrees, and work as a
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