Re: is my power supply dieing?(supplies)

2020-07-19 Thread Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss
I generally use Newegg. Mac mike enriquez wrote on 7/19/20 7:21 AM: > This brings up the subject of Computer Supplies. Where does everyone go to > get their computer supplies. I use to go to Fry's Electronics but last time I > went there it looked very empty. I use to get my power supply there

Re: is my power supply dieing?(supplies)

2020-07-19 Thread Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss
I usually will go online to tigerdirect, Newegg, Amazon and other online computer store. On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, at 07:21, mike enriquez via PLUG-discuss wrote: > This brings up the subject of Computer Supplies. Where does everyone go > to get their computer supplies. I use to go to Fry's Electron

Re: is my power supply dieing?(supplies)

2020-07-19 Thread mike enriquez via PLUG-discuss
This brings up the subject of Computer Supplies. Where does everyone go to get their computer supplies. I use to go to Fry's Electronics but last time I went there it looked very empty. I use to get my power supply there but now I don't want to drive there for nothing. At times like this (COVID)

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-17 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
thanks friend. I guess I will buy a new machine. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:22 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Install psensor and watch if something is getting hot consistently. I did > this a lot trying to figure out what was causing me grief. > > This is where your friend said

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
Install psensor and watch if something is getting hot consistently. I did this a lot trying to figure out what was causing me grief. This is where your friend said "quit whining and go buy a new pc". You can chase weird instability and countless hours spent in doing so, or you just cut your loss

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
73 is still almost 30 degrees under the thermal shutdown. so that is relatively safe. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:50 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > there is a fan on it and it maxes at 73 with the blue kitty in glmark2 > but usually stays below 68 > > On Th

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
there is a fan on it and it maxes at 73 with the blue kitty in glmark2 but usually stays below 68 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:48 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Hows the temperature of your video card? Does it have a fan on it? > > Brian > > On 7/16/20 1:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 09:36:04 -0400 Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > sometimes my computer freezes. is iut the power supply? > Nobody has a crystal ball to tell you whether your computer's power supply is dying. This question pops up every few years for every computer user. The best practice tes

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
Hows the temperature of your video card?  Does it have a fan on it? Brian On 7/16/20 1:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: Might the problem still be the he On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss > wrote: 68C under

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Hard drive On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:41 PM Michael wrote: > > Might the problem still be the he > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> 68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:3

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Might the problem still be the he On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 4:37 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > 68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
68C under load is good. 80C+ idle is bad. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse > and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like > 68. I do

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
lets get back to heat... last time I was running glx (with the horse and various other pictures) and watch, and stress ng the temp was like 68. I don't think that is too bad. On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:19 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem.

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
Looks like your drive probably isn't the problem. Brian Cluff On 7/16/20 11:54 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard systems freeze on me because my hard drive w

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:37 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Also check the health of your hard drive with smartctl. I've hard > systems freeze on me because my hard drive was dying that then appear to > work again for a while after a reboot. Basically your drive starts > throwing errors

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-16 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
On 7/15/20 9:13 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: the computer gal told me to run it until it dies and then get a new computer. That's repair person speak for "This is an old computer, and not worth repairing." BTW have you tried running tests with a bootable CD?  If you can get it to freez

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
Try "sudo lshw -c display" It might be an integrated gpu inside the cpu, intel loves to sell you drivel whether you want it or not (they learned from microsoft). If it is nvidia, it should be a physical card. Looks there at least on an ubuntu 20.04 server of mine at the moment. # apt search nvt

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
also. it didn't freeze on me this morning after I got it home from the computer shop and it didn't freeze on me yesterday before taking it to the shop. On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:51 PM Michael wrote: > > I ran memtest and it reported no problems. > apt install nvtop > Reading package lists...

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I ran memtest and it reported no problems. apt install nvtop Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package nvtop I think it is the PSU as this one is 10 years old. But it may be the video. Unfortunately I can not locate the car

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
There's really no way to tell from the software side if your psu is failing. If the psu randomly stops, your mobo and os dies with it. Your mobo may detect bad power as part of kernel dmesg's to the cpu, but likely not. Problem with PSU's are generally bad electrical components like a blown out

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
do any of the tools on http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ (scroll down to see the tools) do any dIgnostics on the power supply? On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:13 PM Michael wrote: > > the computer gal told me to run it until it dies and then get a new computer. > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:05 PM Michae

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
the computer gal told me to run it until it dies and then get a new computer. On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:05 PM Michael wrote: > > darn they couldn't find anything wrong with it... sort of. the > results were inconclusive. Is there an open source diagnostics tool I > could d/l ? > > On Tue, Ju

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-15 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
darn they couldn't find anything wrong with it... sort of. the results were inconclusive. Is there an open source diagnostics tool I could d/l ? On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:01 PM Michael wrote: > > Thanks for the tip! YEAH I took the easy way out; I took it to a shop. > > On Tue, Jul 14, 20

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
good night. it is now 12:30 here; time for bed! On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:20 AM Michael wrote: > > I think I'[ll just take it to a shop tomorrow! > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:18 AM Michael wrote: > > > > After opening the box I found that the fan I was talking about is a > > chassis fan.

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I think I'[ll just take it to a shop tomorrow! On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:18 AM Michael wrote: > > After opening the box I found that the fan I was talking about is a > chassis fan. sorry. > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:13 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > > > On 7/13/20 8:41 PM,

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
Who knows... check the fans first... that's the cheapest and easiest to fix, if you have one that isn't spinning. Power supply would most likely be the next cheapest... that being said, spend a little extra money for a good power supply, with the cheapest ones, you don't usually get your monies

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
After opening the box I found that the fan I was talking about is a chassis fan. sorry. On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:13 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > On 7/13/20 8:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > inxi tells me this about my fans: > > Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-1: 3139 f

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
On 7/13/20 8:41 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: inxi tells me this about my fans: Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-1: 3139 fan-3: 0 Look at the fan while it's on... does it look like it's spinning? It possible that it IS spinning and the CPU fan is fimply plugged into the wrong fan connector or

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Thanks for the tip! I'd love to come get it but the distance makes it prohibitive. I live in Florida But you think replacing the power supply unit will do it? On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:00 AM Donald Mac McCarthy wrote: > > Some boards have 2 fans for CPU - especially boards designed for > overclo

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss
Some boards have 2 fans for CPU - especially boards designed for overclocking. The face that you don't have any voltage/RPMs across the fan3 may not be a problem. The only way you are going to be sure to tell it is a power supply is generally to replace it. You could replace CPU, memory, or board

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
inxi tells me this about my fans: Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-1: 3139 fan-3: 0 So my cpu fan isn't working. I thought my computer would CRASH/FREEZE more often if the cpu fan wasn't working. What is: fan-1: 3139 fan-3: 0 I'm not sure but I think my power supply fan is running slow. Is that a t

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
hey I forgot to tell ya all that last night after I put the system under stress I got it to freeze. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:29 PM Michael wrote: > > when I'm just running memory test the temp is 46 > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:06 PM Michael wrote: > > > > that was it under stress. > > >

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
when I'm just running memory test the temp is 46 On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:06 PM Michael wrote: > > that was it under stress. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:55 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > > > > If that's your idle temperature, that is terrible. I'll bet if you run > > stress while

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
that was it under stress. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:55 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > If that's your idle temperature, that is terrible. I'll bet if you run > stress while monitoring your temperature you'll see it shoot up even > higher than that. > > (I cook chicken sous vide at 60C

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
If that's your idle temperature, that is terrible.  I'll bet if you run stress while monitoring your temperature you'll see it shoot up even higher than that. (I cook chicken sous vide at 60C) Brian Cluff On 7/13/20 10:05 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: Do 80 is bad? Mine was at 89 when

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
80 to 89 C yes that is bad. 7 bux in some thermal compound, some paper towels, and rubbing alcohol. I would look here if your fans are working but temps are absurd. On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:05 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Do 80 is bad? Mine was at 89

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Ed via PLUG-discuss
If you are looking at thermal paste, you should check that none of your motherboard's capacitors have swollen up - they can go out of spec. If they are new, or little cubes then this won't be a problem. If your motherboard is older and has cylindrical capacitors, there was a batch that would age po

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Do 80 is bad? Mine was at 89 when I first started it On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:48 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > This is a good point too, I actually just did this on my xps15 as well as > they are known to be badly thermal pasted from the factory,

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
This is a good point too, I actually just did this on my xps15 as well as they are known to be badly thermal pasted from the factory, and some years later, same thing as Stephen described. That wasn't too bad, redid the cpu and gpu with high quality stuff, and allowed me to do some mods with therm

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
I just had to partially rebuild a friends computer because the thermal compound used in their system had petrified. they went from 89C down to 30C after I cleaned and replaced the compound. (Partial disassembly was required to unmount the HSF *String of expletives censored* On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-13 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
Agreed, and even more so, I have seen internal PSU fans die too, so make sure to check that. -mb On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Are you sure all your fans are running, including in your power supply? > If you CPU fan sec

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-12 Thread Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
Are you sure all your fans are running, including in your power supply? If you CPU fan secured properly and has good (Not dried out) thermal paste on it.  If you took your CPU fan off and it had some of that thermal waxy stuff on it and you just put it back on, it's probably not conducting heat

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-12 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
OK well, I ran stress and gearsglx and the computer ran fine for about 5 minutes and then it froze. so this means it is the hardware? so I guess is it the power supply? what else could it be? how can I verify or else is it a shot in the dark? On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM Michael wrote:

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-07 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
thanks for shaaring your experiances with me! On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > That is about how my laptop was acting using the i915 driver vs. the intel > kernel mode driver... Maybe make sure you're not using that, by default you > shouldn't. I ended

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-07 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
That is about how my laptop was acting using the i915 driver vs. the intel kernel mode driver... Maybe make sure you're not using that, by default you shouldn't. I ended up with it trying to make prime gpu switching work. It could be gpu related still, most browsers use hardware acceleration that

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-06 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
hmm it just froze with firefox so that isn't the problem. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:34 PM Michael wrote: > > chromium not chrome > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:32 PM Michael wrote: > > > > excuse me... it didn't happen today and I started firefox instead of chrome. > > > > > > On Sun, J

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-05 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
chromium not chrome On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:32 PM Michael wrote: > > excuse me... it didn't happen today and I started firefox instead of chrome. > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:44 PM Michael wrote: > > > > I'm beginning to think it is chrome that is causing this because it > > didn't happe

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-05 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
excuse me... it didn't happen today and I started firefox instead of chrome. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:44 PM Michael wrote: > > I'm beginning to think it is chrome that is causing this because it > didn't happen today. time will tell if that is a correct > hypothesis. > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-05 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I'm beginning to think it is chrome that is causing this because it didn't happen today. time will tell if that is a correct hypothesis. On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:35 PM Michael wrote: > > you know it seems that the first time of the day I start it it > runs a few minutes and then freezes.

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-04 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
you know it seems that the first time of the day I start it it runs a few minutes and then freezes. but upon subsequent restarts everything is good. On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM Michael wrote: > > I have ssh installed on my system but to ssh into another system you > need ssh-server instal

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-03 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I have ssh installed on my system but to ssh into another system you need ssh-server installed on your computer but I can't find it. I guess I'm wrong. What else do you need installed? On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:03 PM Michael wrote: > > I think my issue might also be grafix related because when it

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-03 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
I think my issue might also be grafix related because when it first started doing this the dark areas on my desktop picture would turn blue when it froze. I do have another system. Could you walk me through solving the problem? On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:11 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote

Re: is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-03 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
It really could be about anything, hardware or software. Unplug everything unnecessary, even usb things, and just see if it locks up then. I've had psu's do this, video cards, ram, even usb devices cause weird hardware-ish problems. Check dmesg and /var/log as well for errors/events, could indic

is my power supply dieing?

2020-07-03 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
sometimes my computer freezes. is iut the power supply? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-disc