Re: kernel modules and performance

2007-11-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 06:39:30PM -0700, Matt Graham wrote: > FWIW, I did a short real-world test (copying 690M of data multiple times) > with e1000 compiled in and as a module. Results: > > modulecompiled in > 0m27.004s 0m27.172s > 0m26.192s 0m26.089s > 0m25.957s 0m26.055s >

Re: kernel modules and performance

2007-11-10 Thread Matt Graham
From: Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:55:44PM -0700, der.hans wrote: > >>> Does having a whole bunch of loaded modules cause a performance hit > >>> because some module lookup table gets huge or for some other reason? > See above. *IF* above is how it's done, then a

Re: yum versus apt

2007-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 17:41 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:17 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Craig White wrote: > > > apt (at least apt on rpm based systems) was rendered moot because it > > > does not have the ability to

Re: yum versus apt

2007-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 15:17 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Craig White wrote: > > apt (at least apt on rpm based systems) was rendered moot because it > > does not have the ability to handle architectures. > > apt on rpm is a port from debian and does

Re: yum versus apt

2007-11-10 Thread JT Moree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > apt (at least apt on rpm based systems) was rendered moot because it > does not have the ability to handle architectures. apt on rpm is a port from debian and does things it's own way to deal with rpm's deficiencies. So yes, apt

Re: kernel modules and performance

2007-11-10 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:55:44PM -0700, der.hans wrote: >> Surely we have some kernel folks that could be more authoritative, >> but since you have had no answer in five hours, I stepped in. > > Thanks :). I was hoping someone with good current knowledge would jump in, too. My kernel internals k

Re: kernel modules and performance

2007-11-10 Thread der.hans
Am 09. Nov, 2007 schwätzte Dazed_75 so: On Nov 9, 2007 11:13 AM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: moin moin, There is a performance hit for using modules rather than having the functionality built in to the kernel. Is that a recurring penalty once the module has been loaded? In other words,

Re: how to set up media keys for audacity?

2007-11-10 Thread der.hans
Am 03. Nov, 2007 schwätzte Justin Anthony so: So I just had linux installed a week ago at the installfest and told myself that I wouldn't ask any questions until a week later to give myself the time to figure it out myself. Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out these three things. (BTW, I have a

Re: another compiz question

2007-11-10 Thread Matt Graham
From: "Jon M. Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cary Mabe wrote: >> I'm looking forward to the day when I can contribute a couple >> of answers instead of more questions. This tends to take a while. Don't worry about it. >>> Are the kernel modules needed for DRI loaded? Those are >>> agpgart, inte

Re: another compiz question

2007-11-10 Thread Jon M. Hanson
Cary Mabe wrote: > Thank you again for the help. You guys are amazing. I'm looking forward to > the day when I can contribute a couple of answers instead of more questions. > In the post the other day, the person answering told me to check the kernel > modules for dri. like below > > > "Wha

another compiz question

2007-11-10 Thread Cary Mabe
Thank you again for the help. You guys are amazing. I'm looking forward to the day when I can contribute a couple of answers instead of more questions. In the post the other day, the person answering told me to check the kernel modules for dri. like below "What is the make and model of t

Re: sad day on PLUG

2007-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 22:25 -0700, Kurt Granroth wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > As for OS's, I have gotten to appreciate Linux. I like the fact that the > > repositories of packages is very deep on Fedora and that for minimal > > effort, I seem to get just about everything that I want with yum > >

Re: yum versus apt

2007-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 08:14 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Charles Jones wrote: > > Anyone want to talk about why they like yum versus apt or vice versa? :) > > Well since you ask. Yum is the biggest piece of crap that exists on > Linux. To be fair

Re: sad day on PLUG

2007-11-10 Thread JT Moree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > As for OS's, I have gotten to appreciate Linux. I like the fact that the > repositories of packages is very deep on Fedora and that for minimal > effort, I seem to get just about everything that I want with yum Glad to hear it. Y

Re: yum versus apt

2007-11-10 Thread JT Moree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Jones wrote: > Anyone want to talk about why they like yum versus apt or vice versa? :) Well since you ask. Yum is the biggest piece of crap that exists on Linux. To be fair to yum it's partially because rpm has major problems--but some of t