Re: Flamebait

> This is flamebait... > > A president who proposes a record 3.1 trillion dollar budget for FY-2009 > including $515 billion for the defense department, $70 billion dollars > for bridge spending in Iraq/Afghanistan (for only the 1st quarter of > 2009) thought this is somewhat relevant and worth p

Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

On Feb 4, 2008 9:00 PM, Micah DesJardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you use > > https://mail.google.com > > instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in. This is not necessarily true. There have been attacks in which Google session ids can be compromised if for a t

Re: hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

If you use https://mail.google.com instead of http://mail.google.com it remains encrypted after you log in. Micah --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: htt

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 09:01:53PM -0700, Craig White wrote: [content edited for brevity and levity] > actually, I don't agree as we've had our share of topical discussions > today. > ...is easily deleted by those uninterested and I hardly see it as a > big deal. I actually thought it was pretty

Re: Flamebait

From: "Joshua Zeidner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I once met a guy with a pony tail and Birkenstock sandals who wrote > to me: "visualize whirled peas". I'm not completely sure what the > phrase means, but it has an incredible pacifying effect on people. [much snippage] "Forget world peace. Visuali

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 20:42 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:10:36PM -0700, eric© wrote: > > So the high school bickering is getting a bit old. I'm finding myself > > not even feeling like checking the folders that the PLUG mail is > > filtering into. Are there other lis

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 20:32 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:17:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > And he probably uses Windows!!! > > > > I bet he uses a Mac (with a solid FreeBSD kernel) > > That's a damned lie! It's a MACH kernel with a FreeBSD userland! ;-) >

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:10:36PM -0700, eric© wrote: > So the high school bickering is getting a bit old. I'm finding myself > not even feeling like checking the folders that the PLUG mail is > filtering into. Are there other lists that people like? Also, is > there a PLUG list that just sends

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:17:46PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > And he probably uses Windows!!! > > I bet he uses a Mac (with a solid FreeBSD kernel) That's a damned lie! It's a MACH kernel with a FreeBSD userland! ;-) And I still bet he uses Winderz. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoe

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 20:19 -0700, eric© wrote: > It's not at all about liking or disliking anyone at all. It just > seems that the majority of the content posted lately has been stuff > like arguing over what constitutes flamebait. There might be some > actual good content in there somewhere, bu

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

remedying the problems you cite requires an active moderator. people piddle because people have egos. people want to look smart on the list, and when they don't they often do annoying things which escalate into problematic situations. if there was a moderator here, I can guarantee you there

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

It's not at all about liking or disliking anyone at all. It just seems that the majority of the content posted lately has been stuff like arguing over what constitutes flamebait. There might be some actual good content in there somewhere, but I don't feel like wading through the crap to find it.

hey i found a new toy for iceweasel

For all those who like encrypted connections with gmail I've gotta new toy. It's called better gmail2 and is an extension that has one function i want to most... constant encrypted connection for your email instead of just at login. --- PLUG-discuss m

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 20:07 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 07:44:03PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > > KDE rules! GNOME sucks! > > > I agree > > They both stink. > > > > > Emacs rules!vi sucks! > > > I prefer vi > > If you're using vi on Linux you're pr

Re: A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

An honest question: what do you expect to see on this list? or is this just an easier, more polite way of noting that you don't like someone in particular, etc.? -jmz On Feb 4, 2008 8:10 PM, eric(c) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the high school bickering is getting a bit old. I'm findi

A linux list with a better signal to noise ratio?

So the high school bickering is getting a bit old. I'm finding myself not even feeling like checking the folders that the PLUG mail is filtering into. Are there other lists that people like? Also, is there a PLUG list that just sends out event notifications and the like? eric --

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 07:44:03PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > > KDE rules! GNOME sucks! > > I agree They both stink. > > > Emacs rules!vi sucks! > > I prefer vi If you're using vi on Linux you're probably using vim. Vim's vi compat mode is still different than vi, fwiw. I li

Re: Flamebait

On Feb 4, 2008 7:44 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 19:12 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > as for off-topic/on-topic inflammatory statements that tend to generate > > > long off topic

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 19:12 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Craig White wrote: > > > as for off-topic/on-topic inflammatory statements that tend to generate > > long off topic discussions... > > > > KDE rules! GNOME sucks! > I agree > > > Em

Re: Flamebait

I once met a guy with a pony tail and Birkenstock sandals who wrote to me: "visualize whirled peas". I'm not completely sure what the phrase means, but it has an incredible pacifying effect on people. -jmz On Feb 4, 2008 7:12 PM, JT Moree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED M

Re: Flamebait

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > as for off-topic/on-topic inflammatory statements that tend to generate > long off topic discussions... > > KDE rules! GNOME sucks! I agree > Emacs rules!vi sucks! I prefer vi > Fedora rules! SuSE sucks!

Rasmus probably need not worry (was: Re: Implications Of Yahoo-MSFT merger)

On Feb 3, 2008 5:55 AM, Jeremy Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > goodbye yahoo mail, everyone will have to sign in using the M$ Office > looking system hotmail/msn uses. And then... keep an eye out for > Rasmus working a California Starbucks. > ---

Re: Flamebait

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 17:14 -0700, JT Moree wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Craig White wrote: > > The point simply is, if I make fun of his inarticulate-ness, that really > > isn't a big deal. It really doesn't rise to the level of flamebait > > unless someone is hyp

RE: MySQL - Bugzilla help

If I remove the additional ip- entries from the local host line it seems to mess up CPANEL a bit. Yes, I am on a GoDaddy box. But you are correct in that I should put my FQDN and Ip into the host file, just had not thought about it yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [ASULUG] MySQL - Bugzilla help

Thanks, that fixed it :) From: Arizona State University Linux Users Group [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Coffin Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ASULUG] MySQL - Bugzilla help I think you are using the "ol

Re: Flamebait

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > The point simply is, if I make fun of his inarticulate-ness, that really > isn't a big deal. It really doesn't rise to the level of flamebait > unless someone is hypersensitive. but it is off-topic as you later agreed. And off-to

Re: MySQL - Bugzilla help

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:28 -0700, David wrote: > - "Bryan O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My hosts file has only one entry > > 127.0.0.1 ip-myip.ip.secureserver.net ip-myip > > localhost.secureserver.net localhost.localdomain localhost > > > > Yeah, thats not right. Change

Re: MySQL - Bugzilla help

- "Bryan O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My hosts file has only one entry > 127.0.0.1 ip-myip.ip.secureserver.net ip-myip > localhost.secureserver.net localhost.localdomain localhost > Yeah, thats not right. Change it to: 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost xx.xx.xxx.

Re: MySQL - Bugzilla help

it is mysql -u , not mysql -u=. If you used the = it may have dumped you in as a non-user. Which a non-user may not have access to the database in question or to create it. > > cheek out the DB. As root I executed mysql -u=root (I did not get a The following messages point it out pretty clearly

RE: MySQL - Bugzilla help

My hosts file has only one entry 127.0.0.1 ip-myip.ip.secureserver.net ip-myip localhost.secureserver.net localhost.localdomain localhost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:09 PM To: Main PLUG discu

Re: MySQL - Bugzilla help

- "Bryan O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I am trying to install bugzilla, but I am getting an error when I > run ./checksetup.pl as apache > Enter the e-mail address of the administrator: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Enter the real name of the administrator: Br

MySQL - Bugzilla help

Ok, I am trying to install bugzilla, but I am getting an error when I run ./checksetup.pl as apache Enter the e-mail address of the administrator: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enter the real name of the administrator: Bryan ONeal Enter a password for the administrator account: Ple

Re: Dog Food

I still find such statistics interesting. Sometimes I analyze my server logs to look at such things, just for kicks. Some trends I've noticed: * Free / Open Source topics get a high percentage of Windows hits in addition to some people using Linux or *BSD, but still the vast majority of th

Re: Dog Food

We have had this discussion may times. I think most will say that Windows has it's place and Linux has it's place. I personally use both. I like Windows XP for my workstation and Linux for a server. Both serve me well! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:21:01 -0700, "Craig Whit

OT: Linux at the Super Bowl

Kind of off topic, but not really. I was reading this article on broadcast technology at the Super Bowl and found out that the CableCam uses RTLinux. I know there are a bunch of other devices using Linux behind the scenes in almost every TV station, but any way here is a link to the article about S

Re: Dog Food

On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey now, Craig! I'm just stuck using winblows temporarily because it > came with this laptop. My other machine has always run Slackware > since > I've owned it, but right now it's sitting idle as I use this all the > time. I'm sure a lot

Re: Dog Food

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:21:01 -0700, "Craig White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > We have a lot of Windows users on the PLUG list that aren't eating Linux > dog food. > > ;-) > > Craig Hey now, Craig! I'm just stuck using winblows temporarily because it came with this laptop. My other machine

Re: New Laptop help desired

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:01:10 -0700, "Nathan Aubrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Might help with the sound. I bought theHP Pavilion dv6755us instead and > everything flat out works out of the box. I went to Fry's and they let me > run > Kubuntu on a bunch of their laptops till I found one I lik