FOSS Multi-Party Videoconferencing Solutions?

2008-09-11 Thread Charles Jones
I'm currently looking for a solution that will allow multi-party video conferencing. Here are some preferred features: * Ability to hold a video conference with more than 4 attendees * Ability for multiple, seperate meetings with more than 4 attendees (probably max of ~15 people using system at

OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Josh Coffman
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xemacs and mouse selection

2008-09-11 Thread Eric Cope
Hello all, I recently had my environment deleted under false advisement. My files were recovered, but now my xemacs is messed up. I have all functionality back with exception to one behavior. When I select text with the mouse, it copies it to the clip board, making it available to paste. This is

Re: PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 39, Issue 11

2008-09-11 Thread Alan Gore
I love my MacBook Pro. I got it for running OS X applications, but I found that I can run Windows XP so much faster than my old ThinkPad that I sold off my Windows machine and am now running Windows exclusively as a Vmware virtual image. I can run any flavor of Linux the same way. Alan Gore

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread tjones136
I didn't think there was still anyone dumb enough to believe that crap. Guess I was wrong. Ryan Rix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hachow, http://loosechange911.com/blog/ -- Thanks and best regards, Ryan Rix And I'm-a dancin' with myself On Thursday 11 September 2008

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Joshua Zeidner
you have pictures/video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Charles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can be fun sometimes...I was an eyewitness to the pentagon strike, I was *there*, I have pictures, and video, and yet people have actually told me that I was

chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
Running sudo chgrp name mail on a directory on a usb stick gives chgrp: changing group of `mail': Operation not permitted This is true for any file or directory on the stick, and yes, I entered the password. I can't figure out how to copy to the stick without the group being changed to root or

Re: chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:03 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: Running sudo chgrp name mail on a directory on a usb stick gives chgrp: changing group of `mail': Operation not permitted This is true for any file or directory on the stick, and yes, I entered the password. I can't figure out how

Re: chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread Jon M. Hanson
The USB stick may be mounted read-only. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Robert Holtzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running sudo chgrp name mail on a directory on a usb stick gives chgrp: changing group of `mail': Operation not permitted This is true for any file or directory

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Charles Jones
Not hitting, I would have to have been psychic to have been rolling for that (ironically it would probably just be more proof that it was fake info). The plane went right by my condo, I got a good view of it out of my window as it passed. By the time my roomate and I got a camera it had

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Joshua Zeidner
To my knowledge there is no public pictures that clearly show a plane in the wreckage. If you have such a photo I'd certainly like to see it. -jmz On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Charles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not hitting, I would have to have been psychic to have been rolling

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick Jacques
Pics/Vid or STFU Charles Jones wrote: It can be fun sometimes...I was an eyewitness to the pentagon strike, I was *there*, I have pictures, and video, and yet people have actually told me that I was brainwashed by the govt so that I wouldn't reveal that it was a "global hawk" that hit

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 19:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't think there was still anyone dumb enough to believe that crap. Guess I was wrong. I honestly don't know to what you were referring to but some of the responses lead me to believe that the reference was to the various

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Charles Jones
Patrick Jacques wrote: Pics/Vid or STFU Considering what STFU stands for, I think your response is highly inappropriate and aggressive. I seriously hope you are just joking, as I am sick and tired of internet tough guys, and especially of being called a liar about things that I saw, so I am

Re: chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread snitsdev
On Thursday 11 September 2008 17:03:08 Robert Holtzman wrote: cp -preserve=mode,ownership,group,timestamp test1 /media/disk gives cp: invalid option -- e I have to be doing something wrong but I'm not sure what. Google and Ubuntu forums were no help but I may be searching on the wrong terms.

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Charles, thanks for the response. Are they online right now? -jmz On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Charles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Jacques wrote: Pics/Vid or STFU Considering what STFU stands for, I think your response is highly inappropriate and aggressive. I

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Charles Jones
Craig White wrote: there are documented moments when such acts (killing innocent American civilians on American soil) were actually contemplated by members of our own government... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods The Northwoods plan, while indeed ludicrous, was purely

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread tjones136
You trimmed the conspiracy kook link I was responding to out of the thread when composing your reply. That _is_ what I was referring to, just so there's no question. Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 19:38 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't think there

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Lets put the conspiracy theories to rest. Lets see the pics. -jmz On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Charles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig White wrote: there are documented moments when such acts (killing innocent American civilians on American soil) were actually contemplated

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 18:53 -0700, Charles Jones wrote: Craig White wrote: there are documented moments when such acts (killing innocent American civilians on American soil) were actually contemplated by members of our own government... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Josh Coffman
Charles is right. Pics or no (and I do believe him) people have mostly made up their minds and won't believe anything proving the contrary anyway. Indeed I did not expect such a long thread. I was only expressing the memory this date invokes with me in a way I thought was fair but firm. The

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread jdawg
I will say here, that there are skeptics everywhere. There are still people out there (one of them including my 24 year old son, unfortunately), that believe we never went to moon in 1969 either. Josh Coffman wrote: Charles is right. Pics or no (and I do believe him) people have mostly

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Well if Charles has photographic proof of a plane wreckage, that is on par with the Zapruder film because there are no such pics in the public domain to my knowledge. He is not making a minor claim. I tend to believe him as well, just by the character of his writings. But on the other hand,

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Charles Jones wrote: Craig White wrote: Was this plan rediculous? Yes. Did it involve killing innocent people, or even enemies? No. Could 9-11 be just a more hardcore version of this plan? Anything is possible, but I have a hard time believing that the govt would be

Re: chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't that be cp --preserve=... ? True. It's one of the commonest mistakes I make. However, cp --preserve=all test1 /media/disk still changes the group from username to root. First, how can I prevent this from happening and second how can I

Re: OT: remember

2008-09-11 Thread Charles Jones
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 18:53 -0700, Charles Jones wrote: Craig White wrote: there are documented moments when such acts (killing innocent American civilians on American soil) were actually contemplated by members of our own government...

Re: chgrp not permitted?

2008-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 17:03 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: Running sudo chgrp name mail on a directory on a usb stick gives chgrp: changing group of `mail': Operation not permitted This is true for any file or directory on the stick, and yes, I entered