list moderation options

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
moin moin, this is request for information about possible technical options. I don't know about mailing list managers that have the primary features I'd like to consider. Does anyone know of a mailing list manager that can... Automagically throttle/moderate threads that get more than x number of

Re: Please stop

2008-11-07 Thread Vaughn Treude
Micah DesJardins wrote: > Dear PLUGers, > > I've sat back. I've been patient and quiet. I have not put forward my > political or religious beliefs. I have refrained from name calling, > slander, and prophecies of doom and/or salvation. This conversation > has spilled over into half a dozen threa

Re: Please stop

2008-11-07 Thread James Finstrom
This is a good selling point for googles threading as I only see 4 emails for (10,000) I personaly am intrigued by any conversation on almost any subject politics, religion, the north eastern migration of mutant snails. I do see the point of others that this list should be for linux chat but outdid

Re: Off topic kills value of the list and group

2008-11-07 Thread keith smith
As one of the participants that caused this uproar I must apologize for upsetting so many people. I have been on several tech lists for about 10 years and added a 3rd about 2 years ago.  I've only been involved in 1 or 2 off topic discussions over that period.  While setting through several hu

Ububtu 8.04 Sound Problem

2008-11-07 Thread Clayton Stapleton
I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed on my computer and been unable to get the sound to function. Sound works fine in Windows XP on this dual boot system. The system uses an Intel Desktop Board DG965RY with Intels High Definition Audio (which is a SigmaTel STA9227 audio system). When I do a “ sudo dpkg-

Re: Upgrading Kubuntu

2008-11-07 Thread Jon M. Hanson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:20:43PM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Jon M. Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been using Linux for a long time and recently I've been playing > > around with Kubuntu. I'm currently running 8.04 with the KDE 4 Remix and > > wanted to do

Re: My take on Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10 (K/X/Ubuntu)

2008-11-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 23:15 -0700, Dazed_75 wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:11 AM, SI - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Only one problem I have with 8.10 - Nvidia did not provide updated drivers > > for Ubuntu to use for the older cards. > > > > Does anyone know if this was fixed? I cannot upgrad

Re: feisty to intrepid

2008-11-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 18:50 -0700, der.hans wrote: > Am 06. Nov, 2008 schwätzte betty so: > > so, can i upgrade from feisty to intrepid skipping over the interim > > releases? (without having to re-do all my settings...?) > > It's recommended that you upgrade to each release. > > If you're runnin

Re: I want more to play with....

2008-11-07 Thread Stephen
If you don't have Linux you do have an alternate option. VMware server is free, and then you can run several Linux installs on your system... r you can virtualize your windows machine and then run it inside Linux :-) On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:29 PM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > afte

Re: list moderation options

2008-11-07 Thread Alex Dean
On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:18 AM, der.hans wrote: moin moin, this is request for information about possible technical options. I don't know about mailing list managers that have the primary features I'd like to consider. We had one day of flaming. It's exceptional, not normal. It doesn't r

Re: Ububtu 8.04 Sound Problem

2008-11-07 Thread James Finstrom
The board is a few years old you may look at installing the backport modules sometimes to remain bleeding edge you have to deprecate for size... On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well Intel is supporting Linux here but only specifc flavors it seems... > :-

OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
Hello all, I write PHP using the CodeIgniter framework. They have new releases regularly and I spend several hours updating all of my sites to the new framework. Does anyone else on the list write code around a framework (it doesn't have to be PHP or CodeIgniter)? How do you manage framework update

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Alex Dean
On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Eric Cope wrote: Hello all, I write PHP using the CodeIgniter framework. They have new releases regularly and I spend several hours updating all of my sites to the new framework. Does anyone else on the list write code around a framework (it doesn't have to be P

Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Paul Mooring
I've beening using emacs for java programming the last couple weeks and like being able to open multiple windows at once. I recently started using gedit mostly because it has a plugin the let's me embed a terminal window in the bottom pane that I can use for compiling/running reading error messages

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Ryan Rix
You could try gvim :) <3 gvim. You can run external commands, etc from it, it has syntax highlighting, even spell checking On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've beening using emacs for java programming the last couple weeks and > like being able to open mu

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread James Finstrom
In shell I use nano cause I am lazy In the Gui I am a fan of Kate for simple stuff and Blue fish for the slightly more complex On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Ryan Rix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could try gvim :) <3 gvim. You can run external commands, etc from it, > it has syntax highli

Re: list moderation options

2008-11-07 Thread eculbert
This is I think, the ONLY re: ON THE LIST I have done. The simple solution? Just don't RE: to political/etc OT posts!! At least via the list. I think that is what I have done and the problem is solved!! 73 Ed/ke7feg Now that Novemeber is here, April can wait! On 2/23/2007 the morse code

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
While testing is absolutely necessary, I was talking about managing multiple instances of the framework across servers? Do people manually update each install? Does anyone have fancy scripts they can invoke that update (after testing)? I hadn't heard of XDebug, I will look into that too. Thanks!

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Alex Dean
On Nov 7, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Eric Cope wrote: While testing is absolutely necessary, I was talking about managing multiple instances of the framework across servers? Do people manually update each install? Does anyone have fancy scripts they can invoke that update (after testing)? I hadn'

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > I write PHP using the CodeIgniter framework. They have new releases > regularly and I spend several hours updating all of my sites to the new > framework. Does anyone else on the list write code around a framework

planning backup processes

2008-11-07 Thread Stephen
I need to put up a Linux server and i need to make sure it has a backup routine that gets to tape eventually. Currently we have licensing for backup exec 11d, and there will also be a VMware ESXi machine in the mix. the storage server right now is a bit up in the air as to what it will be i am c

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
I have multiple installations across different web domains (I don't manage the server). After I have tested the updates locally, I want a way to push the new framework version to the production installations. CodeIgniter provides manual update reference material and rarely is it a complete replacem

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
How do you like CakePHP? Have you used other frameworks? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> I write PHP using the CodeIgniter framework. They have new releases >> r

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Judd Pickell
If you are willing to use a GUI, I would recommend using eclipse ( www.eclipse.org) for doing the java development. It comes with the support for multiple windows, project management, different source and output folders, creating jars, terminal output from running process, syntax hilighting, code c

Re: OT: PHP Framework Management

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I've used Drupal extensively. CakePHP is a well designed MVC PHP framework. There are lots of Cake developers. Its very similar to RoR but you get all the goodies you get with PHP. This system will have a decent capacity on its own, and a huge capacity when used in conjunction with Squid.

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Patrick C
You can do this with Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've beening using emacs for java programming the last couple weeks and > like being able to open multiple windows at once. I recently started > using gedit mostly be

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Paul, learn Eclipse. Its worth it. jmz On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Paul Mooring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've beening using emacs for java programming the last couple weeks and > like being able to open multiple windows at once. I recently started > using gedit mostly because it has a

Re: OT: [maybe] how do I sign up? (was: Re: [...] NOVEMBER HackFest [...] on November 16, 2008 [...])

2008-11-07 Thread blake gonterman
I should be there for this as well. Sent from my android On Nov 5, 2008 5:16 PM, "Joey Prestia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Schwartz wrote: | ((top posted because this thread | seemed to already have that "custom")) ... The HackFest class lab is

no hackfest tomorrow

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
moin moin, just a reminder that the Hackfest was moved on Monday and it will be a week from tomorrow at Estrella Mountain Community College. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Very frankly, I am opposed to people being programmed by others.

Re: Ububtu 8.04 Sound Problem

2008-11-07 Thread Stephen
well Intel is supporting Linux here but only specifc flavors it seems... :-( http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/Motherboards/DG965RY/DG965RY-overview.htm if you hit the tools and software you can get drivers (audio ect) for SUSE, Red Hat, Red Flag, Neoshine, and Mandriva. No source tarballs.

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
I have used Eclipse with for Python Development and PHP development. It is very nice. I liked the command line integrated with the debugger myself. Eric On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul, learn Eclipse. Its worth it. jmz > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
hey Eric, do you use PHPEclipse or the other one? Havent really tested out PHPEclipse debugger facilities. I use PHPEclipse w/ Subclipse. Works well, and runs on Linux/Windows/Mac desktops. -jmz On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Eric Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used Eclips

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
Its been a while, but I think I used PHPEclipse. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey Eric, > > do you use PHPEclipse or the other one? Havent really tested out > PHPEclipse debugger facilities. > > I use PHPEclipse w/ Subclipse. Works well, an

OT: how to behave on a forum

2008-11-07 Thread Shawn Badger
Something I saw on digg today and thought the group may enjoy it. http://digg.com/comedy/How_To_Behave_On_A_Forum_2 --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http

Re: no hackfest tomorrow

2008-11-07 Thread alexanderhenry
The UAT people tried contacting me as if I was the first point of contact for hackfest. I informed them of our decision. "der.hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > moin moin, > > just a reminder that the Hackfest was moved on Monday and it will be a > week from tomorrow at Estrella Mountai

Re: no hackfest tomorrow

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
Am 07. Nov, 2008 schwätzte [EMAIL PROTECTED] so: The UAT people tried contacting me as if I was the first point of contact for hackfest. I informed them of our decision. Thank you. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # Magic is science une

Fullscreen bug in firefox

2008-11-07 Thread Mike Hoy
Every now and then my firefox browser window goes to full screen. I just push F11 and it goes away. I've seen some stuff on the web for work arounds on this, but none of it was current. For example the settings they suggested I fix weren't there under Edit>Prefs. Anyway, anybody having this proble

SCO: Was Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-07 Thread Jason Spatafore
Who is SCO? I vaguely remember the name...I think it was a company that thought it owned the world only to find out that the owned the discarded toilet paper of the world. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 20

Re: SCO: Was Re: We are screwed.

2008-11-07 Thread Scott
I've been sitting here watching this list fill up with all of this blithe, wondering just how low the members of this really need to go? BTW, Jason, you need to fix your date - today's the 7th, not the 6th. :) -Scott --- On Thu, 11/6/08, Jason Spatafore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Jas

Disk wiping recommendations

2008-11-07 Thread Josh Coffman
Hi all, Could anyone please post recommendations on wiping data off of a hard drive? I'm getting rid of my old desktop and want to make sure its clean before the recipient gets it (not that they would have a clue how to retrieve data). It's just a precaution. Thanks, -j --

Re: Disk wiping recommendations

2008-11-07 Thread Jon M. Hanson
I'll repeat what I recommended to Hans just earlier today: Darik's Boot and Nuke: http://www.dban.org. --- Jon M. Hanson (N7ZVJ) Weblog: http://the-hansons-az.net/wordpress/ Homepage: http://the-hansons-az.net/ Jabber IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Josh Coffman wrote: > Hi

Re: Disk wiping recommendations

2008-11-07 Thread Charles Jones
Jon M. Hanson wrote: > I'll repeat what I recommended to Hans just earlier today: Darik's > Boot and Nuke: http://www.dban.org. > DBAN works nicely. I think hans also tried using the "shred" utility that most distros come with. Be aware that doing a secure of a hard disk that is 40GB or larg

Re: Disk wiping recommendations

2008-11-07 Thread Josh Coffman
ive been warned, am expecting many hours. thanks, -j On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Charles Jones < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon M. Hanson wrote: > > I'll repeat what I recommended to Hans just earlier today: Darik's > > Boot and Nuke: http://www.dban.org. > > > DBAN works nicely. I think ha

Re: Disk wiping recommendations

2008-11-07 Thread Eric Cope
I have used Boot and Nuke before, specifically from the Ultimate Boot CD. I always choose the most passes, but lose interest after 3-4. Eric On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Josh Coffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > ive been warned, am expecting many hours. > > thanks, > -j > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 200

Re: Gedit/text editor question

2008-11-07 Thread jdawg
Paul Mooring wrote: > I've beening using emacs for java programming the last couple weeks and > like being able to open multiple windows at once. I recently started > using gedit mostly because it has a plugin the let's me embed a terminal > window in the bottom pane that I can use for compiling/ru

ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread jdawg
I have notice more with v3, that I find my system "freezing" up, when a page doesn't load. Most of the time it is ok, but sometimes it becomes excruciatingly slow to click on any other app, or trying to cancel firefox. When firefox is eventually cancelled, the system goes back to normal. I am ru

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
FF3 gives me problems with Flash. Test and see if it is a Flash applets that are causing your problem. -jmz On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM, jdawg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have notice more with v3, that I find my system "freezing" up, when a > page doesn't load. > Most of the time it

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
Am 07. Nov, 2008 schwätzte jdawg so: I have notice more with v3, that I find my system "freezing" up, when a page doesn't load. Most of the time it is ok, but sometimes it becomes excruciatingly slow to click on any other app, or trying to cancel firefox. When firefox is eventually cancelled, th

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread jdawg
Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > FF3 gives me problems with Flash. Test and see if it is a Flash > applets that are causing your problem. > yeah. i bet it is ... what can be done about that? probably nothing. > -jmz > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM, jdawg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM, jdawg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > > FF3 gives me problems with Flash. Test and see if it is a Flash > > applets that are causing your problem. > > > yeah. i bet it is ... what can be done about that? probably nothing. my solution

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Nov, 2008 schwätzte jdawg so: Joshua Zeidner wrote: FF3 gives me problems with Flash. Test and see if it is a Flash applets that are causing your problem. yeah. i bet it is ... what can be done about that? probably nothing. Adobe flash player is borken in some ways and we can't f

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:15 AM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 08. Nov, 2008 schwätzte jdawg so: > > Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >>> >>> FF3 gives me problems with Flash. Test and see if it is a Flash >>> applets that are causing your problem. >>> >>> yeah. i bet it is ... what can be

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Nov, 2008 schwätzte Joshua Zeidner so: I would not suggest using the gnash plugin. Projects like Gnash and Blackdown always seem to be borken or out of date. Blackdown was often in good shape, but kept having problems due to interference from Sun :(. ciao, der.hans -- # http://ww

Re: ubuntu 8.04 and firefox 3 woes

2008-11-07 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:25 AM, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 08. Nov, 2008 schwätzte Joshua Zeidner so: > >I would not suggest using the gnash plugin. Projects like Gnash and >> Blackdown always seem to be borken or out of date. >> > > Blackdown was often in good shape, but kept