Re: Trying Fedora

2009-01-24 Thread Thomas Cameron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 leegold wrote: > Hi, > > I'm finding Xubuntu 8.10 to be unstable. A lot of people on this list > seem to be into Fedora disto - I'm downloading the iso now. It's ashame, > Xubuntu feels wonderful - but it acts weird, things freeze and crash. My > the

Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I'm shocked. -jmz http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F24%2F1842218&from=rss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Jason
I'm shocked it took him so long to wisen up...isn't he a genius? :) On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 16:17 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > I'm shocked. -jmz > > http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F01%2F24%2F1842218&from=rss > --- > PLUG-discuss mai

RE: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Lisa Kachold
I sat in Linus' chair when working with OSDL in Oregon. OSDL's technical advisory board [LWN.net] www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM > Date: Sat,

RE: Trying Fedora

2009-01-24 Thread Lisa Kachold
A really wonderfully stable and easy to use distro that get's little exposure is OpenSuse. Version 11.1 is really really FINE. www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Eac

Fine DeskTop Background

2009-01-24 Thread Lisa Kachold
In case you might be nostalgic at all? www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM _ Wi

Re: Fine DeskTop Background

2009-01-24 Thread Charles Jones
:-) Lisa Kachold wrote: In case you might be nostalgic at all? www.Obnosis.com |  http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM Windows Live™: E-mail.

HackFest Series: Embedded Executable Scripts

2009-01-24 Thread Lisa Kachold
Current list of Executable Virus/Script that use browser, javascript PDF, or graphics: http://www.esecurityplanet.com/tags/index.php/88852 www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Sat

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Tuna
You just lit a blaze in a fireworks factory, my friend. FLAMEWAR OH SHI- Jason wrote: > I'm shocked it took him so long to wisen up...isn't he a genius? :) > > > On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 16:17 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> I'm shocked. -jmz >> >> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F0

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread James Finstrom
I was a kde user and still like and use a lot of kde apps. I fought the gnome thing because I didn't like the feel and noo need to mess with it when I have kde. Well after the ubuntu 8.10 presentation I noticed I was missing several of ubuntus toys that didn't get rolled in to kubuntu so I decided

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Jason
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 17:03 -0700, Tuna wrote: > You just lit a blaze in a fireworks factory, my friend. > > FLAMEWAR OH SHI- lol. Actually, I've been on this list for awhile. I don't see much "comraderie" between all the list members, nor do I see people "worship" anybody in particular. I'm sure

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Joshua Zeidner
James, there are a lot of clear advantages to using the Ubuntu distro. For starters its far more stable than Kubuntu. I used to be a Kubuntu guy, but I just gave into Ubuntu, its the easiest way for me to run Linux, plus its an easy sell to a manager, etc. Even though we all value choice, som

Re: Linus Torvalds Switches to Gnome

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
this is the reality of the computing world really. technology does not exist for its own sake, but for the sake of supplying the need. windows linux apple OS2 wichever if it pisses people off it fails. Overall people really dont want to invest a horrible amount of time into making something work u

Re: Trying Fedora

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
i used SUSE fro a whiel then OpenSUSE for a while, but developed a very Windows sluggishnes to it that was eating up more resources than it really should have. does 11.1 resolve that? On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > A really wonderfully stable and easy to use distro that g

Storage mangement advice

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
I have a storage server that i am running, i gave a while with openfiler and it has mostly been sucessful, but it is developing a weird quirk that its really unnaceptable. we had created an iSCSI volume and attached it to our server and have atamoving back and forth, quite happily really. but over

Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
I understand that swap is not as critical anymore with machines now having 2, 4, and even larger amounts of Ram available. but aside from being able to allow a more graceful recovery of a runaway process. how needed is swap in a desktop machine? reason i ask is I'm getting ready to try and cram a

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Kenny McHenry
>From what I have heard swap space isn't necessary like you were saying. In netbooks they aren't using swap space, because it reduces the strain put on the solid state harddrives that have a finite number of read/writes before they go bad. I'd say that as long as you have enough memory in your comp

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 22:45 -0700, Stephen wrote: > I understand that swap is not as critical anymore with machines now > having 2, 4, and even larger amounts of Ram available. but aside from > being able to allow a more graceful recovery of a runaway process. how > needed is swap in a desktop mach

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
so if i were to create a small swap partition at the tail end it wouldnt see it but it would still exist and not break things? On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 22:45 -0700, Stephen wrote: >> I understand that swap is not as critical anymore with machine

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Craig White
I think that's the case but check it for yourself. Boot a Linux disk and do fdisk -l /dev/something_like_scdisk1 I forgot the actual designations that Macintosh will use Craig On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 23:18 -0700, Stephen wrote: > so if i were to create a small swap partition at the tail end it > w

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Charles Jones
You don't have to use a swap *partition*. You can use a swap *file*. Just dd some space from /dev/zero to a file like /swapfile and then use mkswap on the file. Then you can activate it with the "swapon" command. Kenny McHenry wrote: From what I have heard swap space isn't necessary like you

Re: Linux without swap

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen
this is interesting to know. ill have to do some reading on this. On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Charles Jones wrote: > You don't have to use a swap *partition*. You can use a swap *file*. Just dd > some space from /dev/zero to a file like /swapfile and then use mkswap on > the file. Then yo

Unable to log in to PLUG web site

2009-01-24 Thread Dazed_75
Attempted to log in to http://plug.phoenix.az.us/ using the login link at the left and I get user or password not recognized. So I tried telling it to reset my password based on my user name (not my email addr) and it did send me an email with a one-time login link. The email said I would be redi