Re: data recovery

2009-05-04 Thread der.hans
Am 05. Mai, 2009 schwätzte jordi laforge so: moin moin, Can anyone sugest a decent app to undelete files on a Windows partition? Hopefully one that is included on a livecd. Dennis usually rescues system rescue CD. I think there's a Live CD specifically for hitting windows stuff. A package s

data recovery

2009-05-04 Thread jordi laforge
Can anyone sugest a decent app to undelete files on a Windows partition? Hopefully one that is included on a livecd. Thanks --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail setting

Re: OT: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I think its pretty clear at this point that paper usage is a problem, so Im not really going to argue that point. your anecdote about e-waste is not really a fair point either, because 1 PC can process millions of documents that would be printed otherwise- so its not really a valid comparison.

Re: OT: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread A. W. Wright
(Since we are top-posting) In your opinion! I am more then happy to pay my $10 for 1/500th of a tree planted and harvested and processed by private companies on their own private property, or resources that would have been cut down and gone unused otherwise. We don't cut down rainforests for paper

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
btw- if anyone is interested in these topics, feel free to contact me off list. Theres much more background to these ideas as well as plans for implementing. -jmz On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:45 PM, keith smith wrote: > > > Man you guys should blog all this... do a few trackbacks... pings and p

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:45 -0700, keith smith wrote: > > > Man you guys should blog all this... do a few trackbacks... pings and > put some adsense on your sites and take a vacation. > > Sorry could not help myself. > fair enough I wish you would fix the quoting mechanism of you mail cli

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread keith smith
Man you guys should blog all this... do a few trackbacks... pings and put some adsense on your sites and take a vacation. Sorry could not help myself. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner Subject: Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Re

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:12 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> Craig, >> >>   you're not really disagreeing with me. > > au contrare > > I disagree with your dismissive attitude, with your lack of interest in > the connection of the subject at

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 21:12 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > Craig, > > you're not really disagreeing with me. au contrare I disagree with your dismissive attitude, with your lack of interest in the connection of the subject at hand to the progenitor of this thread, with your assertion that

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Bill Lindley wrote: > Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> It[']s obvious to anyone who is serious about development >> that a few google queries rivals what you can find in any printed >> technical manual > Except that until you know what you're trying to ask, you can't ask >

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
Craig, you're not really disagreeing with me. I stated several times that the reason books linger is that there are no dependable ways to deliver content and compensate authors. Lack of compensation = lack of quality. So I think an important issue is: can we design a system where compensatio

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Bill Lindley
Joshua Zeidner wrote: > It[']s obvious to anyone who is serious about development > that a few google queries rivals what you can find in any printed > technical manual Except that until you know what you're trying to ask, you can't ask Google for it. Books and printed man-pages are far more reada

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:53 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > > I don't understand the negativity around dead tree media. > > The criticisms are complex. Primarily, chopping down rain forests > to explain to someone how to write Perl is conside

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Alex Dean wrote: > > On May 4, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Craig White >> wrote: >>  fact is, those books barely equip you to pass a job interview let >> alone actually build software.  At this point, they act primar

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Alex Dean
On May 4, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Craig White wrote: fact is, those books barely equip you to pass a job interview let alone actually build software. At this point, they act primarily as totems of technical knowledge and tend to help convinc

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Dazed_75
I agree and disagree. I have a number of O'reilly books in my shelves. Though I rarely look at one anymore and haven't bought any new editions, I certainly had found them useful in the past. I suspect there are people who find them useful today especially where there may be newer editions. I per

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
I don't doubt that there is some value there, but we tend to deflate the collateral costs in terms of environment, and we also tend to overvalue the credibility associated with publication. These problems are fairly consistent across most disciplines. -jmz On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, keith

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > I don't understand the negativity around dead tree media. The criticisms are complex. Primarily, chopping down rain forests to explain to someone how to write Perl is considered wasteful and excessive[1]. Its obvious to anyone who is seriou

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread keith smith
Could it be you feel this way because you already poses many skills.  These book may have value to someone new to the subject.  Is that possible? Keith Smith --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Joshua Zeidner wrote: From: Joshua Zeidner Subject: Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly bo

Re: HackFest Series: Roo HoneyNet LiveCD [& Conflicter Infection Test from HoneyNet.org]

2009-05-04 Thread Dazed_75
Thanks Lisa, I totally missed connecting the honeynet reference and the url you had. I just knew I had seen the other reference. DOH! Sorry -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Alan Dayley
I don't understand the negativity around dead tree media. It has many advantages, including ultimate portability and no dead batteries. I currently have multiple O'Reilly books above my computer here, all of which I have actually used, some more than others. My Linux Pocket Guide is an excellent

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Craig White wrote: > I'm not sure why I am bothering with this but I do happen to own many > dead tree edition computer books including many O'Reilly books but truth > be told, they are decorating my office by residing on shelves instead of > my desk so I think your

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Craig White
I'm not sure why I am bothering with this but I do happen to own many dead tree edition computer books including many O'Reilly books but truth be told, they are decorating my office by residing on shelves instead of my desk so I think your characterization is slightly too narrow. It's also hard to

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
agreed. O'reilly = lame. The price of those books is hardly worth the information in them. They're mainly used for decorating the desks of poser developers. -jmz On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Snore! > > Bored with the under publishing of technical books, and over b

Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
Snore! Bored with the under publishing of technical books, and over blown accolades for the few available O'Really now! I own that book BTW (and the Unix in A Nutshell it was patterned afer was well used too) but I find the actual sources of each distribution more useful (man, cat /proc/cpuin

Re: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Judd Pickell
Depending on how you construe Server, I think that most people would be in violation of this, considering the vast amount of software that runs a process continually that listens on specific ports and responds to requests.. Sincerely, Judd On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > I

Fwd: Unauthorized Rogue Access Aggressive Distributed Scanning

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://isc.sans.org/port.html?port=7859 -- Forwarded message -- From: Lisa Kachold Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM Subject: Unauthorized Rogue Access Aggressive Distributed Scanning To: internet.ab...@sjrb.ca, ab...@netatonce.se, r...@eircom.net Distributed coordinated denial o

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Joshua Zeidner
why not just use blogger.com? -jmz On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom wrote: > So I have cox at home so I obviously would violate the AUP self hosting and > frankly I am cheap... wait no frugal. Anyway I would like to find a place to > host my domain free but without ads or if it

Re: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
I believe we all have our interpretation of laws and rules in America; unless there are consequences? Actually, you agree with the Acceptable Use Policy that you will not run a "server". It also addresses business use in a vague way (doesn't everyone use their home office for "business")? *Comme

Mobi Festival 2009 Mobile Developer Conference May 16th (Phoenix, AZ)

2009-05-04 Thread Derek Neighbors
Mobi Festival is where platform allegiance is checked at the door. The goal is to bring together mobile enthusiasts, explorers, developers and professionals to share the current state and their visions for the future direction of mobility. Mobi Festival hopes to support the many voices helping to

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Sean Roe
I like scratchhosting.com. $4 a month, php,mysql, ect., the only downside is no ssh but otherwise its a good deal, and the people are great to deal with. https://scratchhosting.com/hosting.php They also do game hosting and shoutcast. Sean On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >

Re: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread JD Austin
I have to ask this question Considering that you can get good web hosting for $6/month from reputable companies like hostgator and quite a few others (you spend more than that on coffee!) why would anyone risk losing something they've put their valuable time into creating a website with a free

Re: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Jon M. Hanson
Cox blocks incoming port 80 so people trying to get to your website would have to specify an alternate port. I think there are also port redirectors with some of the free dynamic DNS services that can do this for you. You would be risking your service doing this since the AUP probably says

RE: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Bob Elzer
My interpretation of the AUP, is that they don't want you running then "Next Slashdot" or "Face Book", with lots of traffic. If you are only going to use it for personal access, and maybe to show family photos to friends, then I don't think it would be a problem. Are we talking Hundreds, Thousa

OT: Taxing non-us profits

2009-05-04 Thread keith smith
I wonder what this will mean for multi-national companies?  I'm guessing companies like Cisco will move off shore completely. --- "Cisco would be adversely affected if tax deferral was implemented by the U.S.," said Cisco spokesman John Earnhardt. "If rules are changed on tax deferral and we are

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Steven A. DuChene
Thanks for all of the links and info. If I run into this again I will know what to do. Until then I did find a Firefox extension called UnMHT that did a pretty damn good job at rendering the original file from the MCC website. -Original Message- >From: Joseph Sinclair >Sent: May 4, 2009

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Default save-as for many Outlook (full) installations is MHT, which is an MS-specific MIME archive format, sort of. Usually, you can run the extracted source through a mime decoder to get a message-plus-attachments output, and then pull the HTML doc from there. Once you have "clean" MSHTML (it's

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Matt Graham
From: Lisa Kachold > http://www.toastedspam.com/decodeqp > It should be noted that quoted-printable encoded text is generally > associated with EMAIL, not Word? The composer of the message probably wrote the message in Word, then pasted it into a mail client. Word->HTML->quoted-printable-encode

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Steven A. DuChene
Well somehow some brain-dead web designer at MCC has managed to put a Mime encoded syllabus online for their students. The actual file I downloaded had a *.mht file extension and contained in that was various bits of Mime encoded crap. One section was even base64 stuff. The bit I was able to extrac

Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

2009-05-04 Thread Gerald Thurman
Tim O'Reilly just tweeted this... Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards: Linux in a Nutshell favorite Linux book of all time. I'm honored. http://bit.ly/hhTBH --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscr

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
I like 110mb.com - free; not fast, some technical issues, but still FREE! Unless you want mysql and server mail, then it's like $16.00 a year. They host this great site: http://freetube.110mb.com On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Joe wrote: > If you don't need a ton of space, you might be able

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
You can try this Toaster SPAM decoder (it will readily tell you if it's decodable as Decode quoted-printable encoded text): http://www.toastedspam.com/decodeqp It should be noted that quoted-printable encoded text is generally associated with EMAIL, not Word? On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Mat

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Matt Graham
From: "Steven A. DuChene" > It is filled with a lot of un-needed style and formating tags > as well as all kinds of stupid extra characters due to some MS > "standard" character formatting stuff. Things like braking lines > in the middle of words and then adding an equal sign at the end > of the b

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
Load into OpenOffice, display source, remove formatting, highlight, cut/splice into text file, or save as text, rename to HTML? Should work? There are also online document conversions, I think MS HTML to text is one of them? On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Steven A. DuChene < linux-clust...@min

HackFest Series: May Lab Cancelled

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
We will be relocating the HackFest at the Foundation for Blind Children (Map below) in June. This will provide a regular room,with regular network, and systems we can setup as a test lab for whatever purpose we are evaluating. Hopefully we can do some exciting work, demonstrate and test vulnerab

Re: HackFest Series: Roo HoneyNet LiveCD [& Conflicter Infection Test from HoneyNet.org]

2009-05-04 Thread Lisa Kachold
Joe Stewart is currently "Director of Malware Research" at SecureWorks (a private securityconsultancy) [read reverse engineering, highly trained lab dog & sec-con hobo]. Joe has participated in development for: http://www.joestewart.org/?page_id=5 and submitted extensive virus content contributio

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Steven A. DuChene
But I don't own Dreamweaver and I see from checking the Adobe site for Dreamweaver it only runs on MS WinBlows and MaOSuX. I am really looking for a solution that will work on Linux! :-) There must be some set of scripts somewhere that will do this. I cannot POSSIBLY be the first person who has r

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread JD Austin
You can do a lot of it in word itself by saving as filtered html. I've used open office to generate better html in the past. NVU/komposer does a decent job cleaning up bad html. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com George

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
Maybe? http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ Enrique Steven A. DuChene writes: > Hello all: > My wife has a class sylibus file from one of her profs at MCC and the file > is "supposed" to be html but it is that awful sort-of-html crap from > MS-Office. It is fil

Re: how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Stephen
I know dremweaver had a fucntion to "clean up Word HTML" not sure about a free one... id have to google this one myself. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Steven A. DuChene wrote: > Hello all: > My wife has a class sylibus file from one of her profs at MCC and the file > is "supposed" to be html

how to sanitize MS Word HTML output?

2009-05-04 Thread Steven A. DuChene
Hello all: My wife has a class sylibus file from one of her profs at MCC and the file is "supposed" to be html but it is that awful sort-of-html crap from MS-Office. It is filled with a lot of un-needed style and formating tags as well as all kinds of stupid extra characters due to some MS "standar

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Joe
If you don't need a ton of space, you might be able to get away with a free UNIX shell. http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml Otherwise, Dreamhost is dirt cheap. http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html $119.40/year ($9.95/mo) for unlimited webpage space, bandwidth, email accounts, ftp access, dom

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Eric Cope
If you put a link to my hosting site on your page, I'll give you a low bandwidth account for free. Contact me offline. Thanks, Eric On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom > wrote: > > So I have cox at home so I obviously would violate

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Alan Dayley
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom wrote: > So I have cox at home so I obviously would violate the AUP self hosting and > frankly I am cheap... wait no frugal. Anyway I would like to find a place to > host my domain free but without ads or if it has ads it allows choice of > placement

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread keith smith
If you want hosting w/o ads and reliable you will have to pay $4/mo.  If you want to host multiple domains in one hosting account  look at HostGator.  I think they charge $7/mo.  Want reseller hosting look at HostGator.  I host about 60 domains for $25/mo in a reseller account.  That is less th

Re: OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread Stephen
no idea. the last one i found i liked went away and sold my email address to the company that took them over... which was a paid only company... but do note, you can get single domain hosting for pretty stupid cheap now... On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom wrote: > So I have cox at

OT: Free Webhost

2009-05-04 Thread James Finstrom
So I have cox at home so I obviously would violate the AUP self hosting and frankly I am cheap... wait no frugal. Anyway I would like to find a place to host my domain free but without ads or if it has ads it allows choice of placement in the design. I use the page for: Public display of personal

Re: HackFest Series: Roo HoneyNet LiveCD [& Conflicter Infection Test from HoneyNet.org]

2009-05-04 Thread Dazed_75
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > The Honeynet project (sponsoring 9 projects in Google's Summer of Code this > year) has a really great LiveCD called Roo, that creates an immediate trap > of magnificent proportions: > > https://projects.honeynet.org/honeywall/attachment/wiki/W

Re: Fedora 10

2009-05-04 Thread Stephen
This is interesting, in ubuntu 8.04/8.10 and 9.04 the fglrx driver works fine, only issues i am running into is 3d windows games under wine. all the Linux native stuff runs like a champ. I know in 8.04 and 8.10 i had to run the driver from ATI's site instead of a repo built driver, but in 9.04 th