Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Jim March
> And some of the issues that are cited have no bearing on other distros. Yes and no... > *The non-buntu distros did not suffer from the Intel-hell that Ubuntu 9.04 > shipped with. (you cited that, not the OP, but still) No, this wasn't purely an Ubuntu issue. Jaunty had about half the graphica

Flight Simulator

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
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OT: PATENTS - Microsoft Banned from Selling XML Based Word Products in the USA - i4i absolves OpenOffice

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2009/08/12/judge-bans-microsoft-from-selling-word.aspx?PageIndex=4 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2351492,00.asp XML Patent Issues and OpenOffice: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/18/190227/i4i-Says-OpenOffice-Does-Not-Infringe-Like-MS-

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Dazed_75
Actually I think the author achieved EXACTLY what he intended and it was CERTAINLY what I intended when I posted the link here. That is to say a lively discussion where people really think about what they say before they type it (well, most of you anyway :=) On the other hand, I tend to agree wit

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Ryan Rix
Jim March wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: >> What a load of horse puckey! >> >> Silly, silly, silly, silly! > > Well...not entirely. > > He uses Network Manager and it's WiFi setup as one example. And I'm > afraid he's right, or at least he was. Network Manager 7.

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Jim March
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > What a load of horse puckey! > > Silly, silly, silly, silly! Well...not entirely. He uses Network Manager and it's WiFi setup as one example. And I'm afraid he's right, or at least he was. Network Manager 7.x series as used in Ubuntu Intrepi

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Eric Shubert
Dazed_75 wrote: > A very interesting train of thought at > http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-is-losing-its-stable-title-33866 > > -- > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry > > The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain > occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. > - Th

BlenderCAD Dev. - Int. Online Mtng

2009-09-03 Thread Matthew A Coulliette
Hey guys, The next official international online meeting is on Sept. 19, 2009, @ Noon, MST. (Normal day, time, and place.) Here are a few things that will probably be on the agenda. website content and layout website improvements needed website hosting of our source code project feature list pro

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
What a load of horse puckey! Silly, silly, silly, silly! On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: > A very interesting train of thought at > http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-is-losing-its-stable-title-33866 > > -- > Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry > > The spirit of resistance to government

Re: Terribly OT: do you need a car...

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Jim March<1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > First thing: I strongly recommend you separate out the deals for the > car and bike.  The car should go fairly quickly as a lot of used > wheels were recently taken off the market. > > As to a bike, I'd look at the Suzuki Int

Re: Terribly OT: do you need a car...

2009-09-03 Thread Jim March
First thing: I strongly recommend you separate out the deals for the car and bike. The car should go fairly quickly as a lot of used wheels were recently taken off the market. As to a bike, I'd look at the Suzuki Intruder 800 first. They made the same bike for over a decade, the oldest ones will

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread huertanix
I haven't noticed a loss in stability in any of my Debian-stable systems. Sent from my BlackBerry Slowphone provided by Allfail -Original Message- From: Technomage Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:02:14 To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Linux losing stability? Dazed_75 wrote: > A ve

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Technomage
Dazed_75 wrote: > A very interesting train of thought at > http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-is-losing-its-stable-title-33866 > > Interesting in that I pointed out some of the very problems as detailed in this article over the last several weeks. Frankly, I've been noticing that linux (

Re: Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Stephen
it is interesting. although somewhat misnamed... as the Os is not loosing stability but various distributions based on what they are expecting to do... On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: > A very interesting train of thought at > http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-is-losing-it

Re: Terribly OT: do you need a car...

2009-09-03 Thread Stephen
oh noes.. the price war begins. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > James Finstrom wrote: >> Hey all I know this is probably bad mojo and terribly off topic but I am >> desperate... My birthday is tomorrow and I am going through a bit of a >> mid-life crises ( I'm not that old so

Re: Terribly OT: do you need a car...

2009-09-03 Thread Ryan Rix
James Finstrom wrote: > Hey all I know this is probably bad mojo and terribly off topic but I am > desperate... My birthday is tomorrow and I am going through a bit of a > mid-life crises ( I'm not that old so I will probably die young) anyhow my > goal for this birthday was to get a motorcycle and

Terribly OT: do you need a car...

2009-09-03 Thread James Finstrom
Hey all I know this is probably bad mojo and terribly off topic but I am desperate... My birthday is tomorrow and I am going through a bit of a mid-life crises ( I'm not that old so I will probably die young) anyhow my goal for this birthday was to get a motorcycle and frankly the economy sucks. I

Linux losing stability?

2009-09-03 Thread Dazed_75
A very interesting train of thought at http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-is-losing-its-stable-title-33866 -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. - Thomas Jefferson -

RedHat Announces 5.3 SpaceWalk Servers

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS125267+02-Sep-2009+BW20090902 Excerpt: Red Hat (NYSE: RHT), the world`s leading provider of open source solutions, today announced the availability of Red Hat Network Satellite 5.3, the latest version of Red Hat's on-premises systems management solu

Using “return-oriented programming” for Sequoia AVC Advantage Electronic Voting Machine Hacking

2009-09-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
Excerpt: "Voting machines must remain secure throughout their entire service lifetime, and this study demonstrates how a relatively new programming technique can be used to take control of a voting machine that was designed to resist takeover, but that did not anticipate this new kind of malicious