Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Kurt Granroth
A few details: Fedora = Community based "bleeding-edge" distro begets RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) = Proprietary long-term distro shadowed by CentOS = Community version of RHEL long-term distro OpenSUSE = Community based "bleeding-edge" distro begets SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) = Propri

RE: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Sean Parsons
The choice for the distro was made based on the recommendation of the person who is helping and nothing more. It is NOT for a production environment, it is to explore a proof of concept and to see what can be done. I'll cross the distro bridge another time... Sean Parsons From: plug-dis

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
I follow your meaning now. I misunderstood what you meant. (I tend to read things too literally sometimes) Steve Phariss wrote: > I know that Fedora and redhat are related and how, not so sure on the > SuSE genealogy. It is my understanding that OpenSuse is the > "development" version of SuSE

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Steve Phariss
I know that Fedora and redhat are related and how, not so sure on the SuSE genealogy. It is my understanding that OpenSuse is the "development" version of SuSE in the same way that Fedora is the "development" version of Redhat. My point being (as has been discussed in the last few messages) that

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Sean Parsons
Craig, Again you assume facts not stated, exchange wasn't a factor. LDAP was chosen because the documentation supported it AND I had used it elsewhere with success, you decided it wasn't necessary and you don't know my network or the facts, that is arrogant on your part. DCPromo wasn't used

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 21:23 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:53 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 1

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 21:23 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:53 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > >> Craig White wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shube

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:55 -0700, Sean Parsons wrote: > Craig, > You are the master, and I'm just an idiot with 20 years of Microsoft > experience. so you win, I'm totally wrong. > > I got nothing more to add, and no desire for this to continue to escalate. > Thanks for your time, and

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:53 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Kurt Granroth wrote: >>> On 1/30/10 10:10 AM,

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 20:53 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > >> Craig White wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Kurt Granroth wrote: > > On 1/30/10 10:10 AM, Matt Graham wrote: > >

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Cope
Sounds to me that Sean needs Craig to show him the ropes. Its obvious Craig thinks he knows what he is doing. Its also obvious that Sean thinks he has no idea what he is doing. To quote my 2 year old son's book[1], lets not make big problems out of little problems. Craig, why don't you offer to hel

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Sean Parsons
Craig, You are the master, and I'm just an idiot with 20 years of Microsoft experience. so you win, I'm totally wrong. I got nothing more to add, and no desire for this to continue to escalate. Thanks for your time, and best wishes for the future. Sean Parsons -Original Message

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Craig White wrote: >>> On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: Kurt Granroth wrote: > On 1/30/10 10:10 AM, Matt Graham wrote: >> After a long battle with technology, Craig White wrote: >>

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 19:49 -0700, Sean Parsons wrote: > Craig, > > We obviously don't agree. I followed those examples and they didn't > work. They were not easy to follow nor did they make the process easy to > understand, perhaps you are using your experience to draw from, which I > don't

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Sean Parsons
Craig, We obviously don't agree. I followed those examples and they didn't work. They were not easy to follow nor did they make the process easy to understand, perhaps you are using your experience to draw from, which I don't have. You also say I didn't need LDAP or Kerberos, that's pretty

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:30 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Steven A. DuChene wrote: > > If it was me I would look for a distribution that had newer bits (Samba > > & etc) > > than CentOS5.4 > > > > Perhaps OpenSuSE-11.2 or similar. > > Newer etc? ;) > > I am a little disappointed that CentOS5 doe

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 18:42 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > >> Kurt Granroth wrote: > >>> On 1/30/10 10:10 AM, Matt Graham wrote: > After a long battle with technology, Craig White wrote: > [snip] > > - Netat

RE: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:49 -0700, Sean Parsons wrote: > Craig, > I don't doubt that people do it. I made several honest attempts to > research, understand and implement a Samba file server in and existing Small > Business Server 2003 network using LDAP and Kerberos. I was not able to make >

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: >> Kurt Granroth wrote: >>> On 1/30/10 10:10 AM, Matt Graham wrote: After a long battle with technology, Craig White wrote: [snip] > - Netatalk (Macintosh AFP server) Really? That package recently droppe

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Good point JD. I always try to steer people away from Fedora for servers in general, especially production servers. Fedora as a desktop is entirely different, although personally I appreciate more stability there as well. My desktop at the moment is Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. A new LTS desktop version is

Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser

2010-01-31 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: > Kurt Granroth wrote: > > On 1/30/10 10:10 AM, Matt Graham wrote: > >> After a long battle with technology, Craig White wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> - Netatalk (Macintosh AFP server) > >> Really? That package recently dropped off the Gentoo ebuil

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Sean Parsons wrote: > Since, so many wanted my project to be posted for the benefit of all, > I’ll start be defining what our first steps are going to be. I had an > opportunity to sit down and discuss my goals and get some advice, so > this is how we have decided to proceed: > >

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Steven A. DuChene wrote: > If it was me I would look for a distribution that had newer bits (Samba > & etc) > than CentOS5.4 > > Perhaps OpenSuSE-11.2 or similar. Newer etc? ;) I am a little disappointed that CentOS5 doesn't have a more recent Samba, but newer Samba rpms for EL5 are available

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread JD Austin
The big difference between Fedora and Centos other than Centos lagging behind Fedora is that Centos is a server distribution and the repository will be around for 10 years. I've been burned a couple of times when I inherited unmaintained systems built on desktop distributions (in my case Ubuntu) w

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Eric Shubert
Steve Phariss wrote: > The downside to "newer bits" is that they may not be as tested. > Arguably, a CentOS/RHEL install will have more long term stability. > Newer is not always better when it comes to getting down to business. > OpenSuSE is the equivalent to using Fedora correct? No, Fedora

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Steve Phariss
The downside to "newer bits" is that they may not be as tested. Arguably, a CentOS/RHEL install will have more long term stability. Newer is not always better when it comes to getting down to business. OpenSuSE is the equivalent to using Fedora correct? a test/dev distribution for the main distr

Re: Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Steven A. DuChene
If it was me I would look for a distribution that had newer bits (Samba & etc)than CentOS5.4Perhaps OpenSuSE-11.2 or similar.-Original Message- From: Sean Parsons Sent: Jan 31, 2010 12:11 PM To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: Project Update Since, so many wan

Project Update

2010-01-31 Thread Sean Parsons
Since, so many wanted my project to be posted for the benefit of all, I'll start be defining what our first steps are going to be. I had an opportunity to sit down and discuss my goals and get some advice, so this is how we have decided to proceed: Goal: Build as much functional