Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Frank
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Frank wrote: > > It really isn't any different to ISP's knowledge of our online activities > > now... I think its actually better since Google is fully upfront about > their > > access to our online activities

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Hmmm, original post and 10 replies. And the only message on topic is the original question to which no one gave a response. Very sad!!! On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Frank wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Frank wrote: >

Re: PXE booting

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Also known as gpxe it seems. I built it which now builds the files for floppy, usb stick, and CD.iso's (and maybe others) in one pass. The floppy one would not make a usable floppy, but the .iso made a working CD. I've only tried it in one machine but it worked nicely. Due to another issue with

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Frank
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > Hmmm, original post and 10 replies. And the only message on topic is the > original question to which no one gave a response. Very sad!!! > I think this is all on topic: having Google as an ISP in the Valley would give them the same access to

PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Turns out the two PXE servers I built do totally different things and really should be called PXE based Install Servers AND I can imagine a third which might more properly be described as a PXE Boot Server. BTW, for those who do not know, PXE stands for Pre-eXecution Environment and really does le

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
What I mean is that all the responses are about privacy and mistrust of the vendor rather than the experiment relating to higher speed access technology and that we could be a factor in getting Phoenix to be chosen as one of the experiment sites which seems the purpose of the original message. On

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread keith smith
--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Frank wrote: > From: Frank > Subject: Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:01 AM > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, > Alan Dayley > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Fr

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread keith smith
I would submit the relies are the answer to the original post. A debate about whether we would want it in the first place. --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Dazed_75 wrote: > From: Dazed_75 > Subject: Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Friday, F

Re: Linux BOX

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen
I saw the settings to do so in the DDWRT router we have here at work. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > do you think the wrt54g version 8 will act as a bridge? > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: >> >> mike havens wrote: >> > Is there a way to use a wir

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen
I am finding out my Saturday was pre-scheduled so if i go i have until about noon. but that gives me no Saturday at all. if you really need the help let me know and ill see about going. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Dazed_75 wrote: > I like it too.  Though I wish we had thought of this ea

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Frank
> > Censorship, loss of privacy, same side of the coin. My original point was > that Google is the biggest search engine. It has been reported that they > know all our Internet habits. If they get into connectivity and they get a > large market share they can selectively censor you. If you are

Re: RHCE test dates?

2010-02-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
No, actually they occur here at most once a year, or did last I checked. On 2/9/10, Charles Jones wrote: > I thought the RHCE exams were given monthly. I just checked the RedHat site > ( https://www.redhat.com/training/offices.html#phoenix ) and it seems to > indicate that the next available R

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen
Really if you want internet privacy there are ways to go about it. however that process is eventually going to gain some level of notice over time. i read about them to stay current on the tech, but personally i have no need for that level of security. I really don't care if the government knows i

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
This has been a standard technique in Unix [BSD, AIX, Solaris and HP-UX] for diskless servers since the early days (pre-Linus). In linux PXE booting from servers is best supported via LTSP project: http://www.ltsp.org/ http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/featur

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Mooring
Another setup I think works pretty well is thinstation http://www.thinstation.org/ It's used to boot into a really minimal version of linux that connects directly to a remote server through rdp, vnc. ssh, ect On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > This has been a standard techniqu

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen
This might be interestingly relevant as well: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_BootingFromLocalDevice its a branch from LTSP however for old machines that don't have PXE functions. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: > Another setup I think works p

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Eric Shubert
Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can wrap half or better of the installs with enough time left to do the ad hoc "getting started" presentation. That could be challenging, but we might pull it off if we keep the objective in mind. You'll have a disk for each participant, right? Dazed_75 wrote: >

Re: Linux BOX

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Havens
but is it a 54g?? On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Stephen wrote: > I saw the settings to do so in the DDWRT router we have here at work. > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > do you think the wrt54g version 8 will act as a bridge? > > > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10

Re: Linux BOX

2010-02-12 Thread Stephen
yes ASUS model WL-500gP On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > but is it a 54g?? > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Stephen wrote: >> >> I saw the settings to do so in the DDWRT router we have here at work. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> > do

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Great references. Thanks Lisa! I may not live long enough to read all that they refer to though. :) I should have realized that my number 3 was basically the thin client idea. I just never looked into that side to see it was (or coould be) based on PXE. I still wonder about building a PXE serve

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread joe
. I have previously responded to each previous suggestion and request for info to try to find a solution to the subject problem, and I will continue to do so. There have been three subsequent replies to this issue and I will now reply to each one separately, in order. First, kitepilot last sugges

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Eric Shubert
Dazed_75 wrote: > > What I would like to see for method #1 is that the .iso files were > retained for use in burning discs either on the PXE server or a client > on the net (not a PXE function) AND might be mounted by the PXE server > function rather than having to extract files when building t

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
OK, this is what we know: >> joe:x:500:500:Joe:/home/joe:/bin/bash You can log in with a valid shell. >> ssh -v localhost (on 73) It doesn't say in your message that .73 accepted the password, but: a.- If you could not complete the login because it refused the password, then you have a problem l

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread joe
. craig last wrote: echo "- \n Marking my place in the logs \n -" \ >> /var/log/secure echo "- \n Marking my place in the logs \n -" \ >> /var/log/messages then try to login, then look at the logs - after the marks you just made. Here's the result: For secure: - \n Marking

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:34 -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote: > . > craig last wrote: > > echo "- \n Marking my place in the logs \n -" \ >> /var/log/secure > echo "- \n Marking my place in the logs \n -" \ >> /var/log/messages > then try to login, then look at the logs - after t

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread joe
. Kitepilot last wrote (in part): > If you grant me access to .73 I'll help you debug it over the phone, > this could be a long array of issues, and maybe more than 1. Thank you very much. I'll be happy to do that. Please feel free to call me at 480-325-5055. Meanwhile, I will continue to prepare

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread joe
> Failed password for joe from 192.168.0.68 > seems pretty clear to me We have known all along that there is a failed password, but I don't know how to fix that. Both the user and root passwords work to log in to this computer, but the same passwords do not work to log in remotely. I have tried

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:45 -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > Failed password for joe from 192.168.0.68 > > seems pretty clear to me > > We have known all along that there is a failed password, > but I don't know how to fix that. Both the user and root > passwords work to log in to this comput

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another?

2010-02-12 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
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Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another? SOLVED

2010-02-12 Thread joe
. >> I have tried changing the passwords, but the system will >> not allow me to do so. > > because 'user' has to satisfy 'rules' for passwords but root does not. > > if you... > > sudo 'su -' > > and then type > > passwd joe > > you can enter anything you want for a password and not have to s

Re: 'ssh' and 'scp' ... such a simple fix.

2010-02-12 Thread joe
. Thanks to everyone who contributed suggestions. As is so often the case, the solution was so very, very simple. In retrospect, the long interchange of messages on this subject issue (which actually began way back in October 2009 with the subject "scp times out") and recently continued over two

Re: 'ssh' and 'scp' ... such a simple fix.

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:55 -0700, j...@actionline.com wrote: > . > Thanks to everyone who contributed suggestions. > > As is so often the case, the solution was so very, very simple. > > In retrospect, the long interchange of messages on this subject issue > (which actually began way back in Oct

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Dazed_75 wrote: > > > > What I would like to see for method #1 is that the .iso files were > > retained for use in burning discs either on the PXE server or a client > > on the net (not a PXE function) AND might be mounted by the PXE server

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Stephen, I really need you. Please come for as long as you are able. Eric, I will have a CD for everyone who wants one though most will never use it again. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: > Sounds good to me. Hopefully we can wrap half or better of the installs > with enoug

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Eric Shubert
Right. I just want to avoid being in a position of waiting for a disk. ;) Dazed_75 wrote: > Stephen, I really need you. Please come for as long as you are able. > > Eric, I will have a CD for everyone who wants one though most will never > use it again. > -- -Eric 'shubes' ---

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Mike Schwartz
Has anyone heard back from those Ubuntu AriZona Loco folks? I sent them a copy of [a reply to] an early part of this thread (see: http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20100208.191150.1e2ad3bf.en.html ) They might be able to help, -- EVEN if, it is (maybe) in some capacity "other than" sh

Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
They could also raise and finance an army to invade your home directly. I'm not worried about that either and this thread is now going on auto-delete. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:41 AM, keith smith wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Frank wrote: > > > From: Frank > > Subject: Re: Who Wants High

Re: PXE vs PXE

2010-02-12 Thread Matt Graham
From: Dazed_75 [loopback mounting of ISOs] > And since there could be many such .iso's to mount are there any > limits on the number of mounts, or mounted files, or One might > need to mount on demand to reduce some resource usage. There is so > much to learn I could almost wish I was 20 ag

Re: Why does 'ssh' and 'scp' work to one and not another? SOLVED

2010-02-12 Thread Lisa Kachold
Glad we got down to the exact details of the issue. Joe, that's the process, much as it seems impersonal, and while you thought your problem was SSH, which was what you were trying to do, it actually was a bad password, which WAS the error message you got! Linux is just like a good domestic or bu

Re: Need some help for a special Installfest

2010-02-12 Thread Dazed_75
Yes, Mike I did and they are not available at this point. But they have been extremely helpful in various ways so I was not expecting them for this. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: > Has anyone heard back from those Ubuntu AriZona Loco folks? > I sent them a copy of [a repl