Okay. I got the CD to burn. It took multiple tries. Then Linux Mint
wouldn't load on the first try. oh cool Linux Mint is the next version
of Ubuntu! How do a download the codecs and stuff I didn't d/l because I
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> On Nov 27, 2011 12:45 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote:
>
>> That's what I figured! How do I burn an ISO with Ubuntu?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The DVD files are a bit bigge
a
> DVD.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> > well, I would love to get the /DVD
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The torrent links aren'
Well I would love to burn the DVD but I don't have any DVD RW. So i am
stuck with th CD It is telling me I have an hour to go! Geesh!
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> well, I would love to get the /DVD
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Ji
the DVDs,
> whichever you want...I'm doing 32 myself. They'll come in fast as
> hell via torrent.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> > http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
> > I couldn't find a link to the torr
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
I couldn't find a link to the torrent of Linux Mint so I googled it. Is
this a good place to D/L it from?
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> WOW It is brand mew. it just came out today!
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 201
WOW It is brand mew. it just came out today!
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As to the screensaver...huh. I just realized I have no idea, and I'm
> running the same thing! See, I think "Unity" is an absolute turd so I
> converted it to Gnome3 via
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ll kubuntu-desktop
>
> Let it load, restart, next time you login pick KDE or Kubuntu
> (whichever it lists it as) and presto, done.
>
> Mint will have an updated kernel though over Ubuntu Oneiric.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
are it has the latest kernel bits for power management and ACPI
> controls, which is another top contender for "why your rig is
> crashing"...they only just got a handle on that stuff, with patches
> that can be applied to current kernels and if I recall right, Mint12
> did so
cell: 480-518-6235
> nadimho...@gmail.com
> ------
> From: Michael Havens
> Sent: 11/26/2011 19:06
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: panic
>
> I settled for the new Ubuntu.I don't know the kernel version. How do I
> turn off the sc
weird stuff there for the last few kernels...
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> > My laptop just started to panic after I started running it off of the
> > battery. Any idea what the problem is?
> >
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My laptop just started to panic after I started running it off of the
battery. Any idea what the problem is?
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4 AM, Charles Lewton wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> If you have enough disk space, dual boot is a good option. Or does 7
>> not like dual boot?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> On 11/25/11, Michael Havens wrote:
>> > Before I blow windows away I think I should make a
its cool... the webcam and microphone just work in the new ubuntu. maybe
the old one too but I didn't have one on my system.
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How do I get it to run?
http://assault.cubers.net/
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Well, two things say 64:
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
Is this a 64 bit processor?
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:01 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Nov 2011, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> how do I tell if I have a 32 bit system or a 64 bit?
>>
>
> Functional t
how can I get the OS not to fall asleep?
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you
> want.
>
> Note - if you restore sometime in the future, it will wipe your disk and
> restore to what you backed up. The WHOLE disk, not just the Windows
> partition.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> They didn'
runs visio. If you move it around, just don't
> change the mac or hardware types much or it'll reset the wga bulls***.
>
> Really need something like a portable citrix xenapp for this kind of thing
> that doesn't cost a left arm or require infrastructure...
>
> -mb
&
Oh yea I forgot to mention that microsoft does not include restore CDs
anymore (I'm sure most of you know this). They expect the average user to
make a backup of the operating system AND of the the boot sector?
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> I thought t
ov 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard drive
> in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that and can I back up the
> boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd?
>
> --
> :-
Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard drive
in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that and can I back up the
boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd?
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olute worst case scenario, you
> end up with a WiFi adapter on a USB port until drivers for the inboard
> WiFi chip come along...but again, that's less than a 5% chance.
>
> "Linux runs on everything" just isn't quite so. The video chipset is
> going to be the s
adcast that for
> other users if I want to share my cellmodem connection...in other
> words, create a WiFi hotspot.
>
> The very best Linux WiFi cards are usually Atheros. All have
> re-broadcast support and excellent open-source driver support. Next
> best is Intel - good drivers but
But what id 'dual core'? Or is that one of those things that can't really
be explained?
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The C-50 is dual-core. Still a slow one though.
>
> Jim
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Mi
What are you thankful for?
I'm grateful for the advice and guidance you;ve given me. a
know-nothing Linux geek.
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It sounds like it's not ready for the prime time!
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:49 PM, James Mcphee wrote:
> Per the main page, and something I got to experience first-hand.
>
>> Note that Btrfs does not yet have a fsck tool that can fix errors. While
>> Btrfs is stable on a stable machine, it is c
nymore, and it
> >>> is a shame, because each one i have seen that does have a Linux native
> >>> client has run better smoother and prettier with same hardware.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Havens
> wrote:
> >>&g
gt;
> not allot of high end titles really develop on Linux anymore, and it
> is a shame, because each one i have seen that does have a Linux native
> client has run better smoother and prettier with same hardware.
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> >
d (Google search 'best Linux Games'):
> http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080510052539217/Games.html
>
> http://www.penguspy.com/#/All/free_and_commercial/open_closed/sort=1/view=1/limit=0
> http://www.dedoimedo.com/games/linux-games-best.html
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2
1- Neverwinter Nights
2- Doom3
3-
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So then doom3 can be played with Linux?
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Stephen wrote:
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/doom-3-source-code-released/16486
>
> Carmak Released Doom3 Source code under the GPL. you still need to buy
> the game for the textures ect, but the guts of the program
I want to be able to show people this list and say, "These games run on
Linux currently."n And the list will grow as games are made to work on
Linux. Perhaps Alan would be good enough to put this list on the website.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> let'
let's start a list of Games that work with Linux. I don't mean minesweeper
and simple games like that but rather complex games that 20 something kids
like.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Nathan England wrote:
>
> I have been searching for a good role playing game that is linux based, no
> wine,
but the drives that came out of it are ATA.
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:19 AM, JD Austin wrote:
> Sata and ATA are different interfaces.
> If you have a choice get a Sata drive Mike as ATA/IDE/EIDE drives are on
> their way out.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:39, Mic
I hate telling people that with Linux they won't be able to be a gamer. Is
Linux any more game friendly than it used to be?
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You don't want a laptop that's "missing bits". Battery maybe. But
> otherwise, you don't want to start with a "needs work" special.
>
> Jim
>
Thanks for the advise!
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You don't want a laptop that's "missing bits". Battery maybe. But
> otherwise, you don't want to start with a "needs work" special.
>
> Ji
pray tell, what do you mean by complete working setup?
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I want someone from PLUG to do it because I'm pretty sure I can trust my
Linux patriarchs. Maybe I should just get the windows box?
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Thanks Jim. Are you saying it isn't worth the time to put one together for
me? I'll give it a couple of days and see if anyone is interested in doing
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I didn't put any specs because I have no need for speed or lots of memory.
I suppose this would be the minimum because I can get this at walmart for
about $200:
Intel Atom N455 processor
1GB memory; 250GB hard drive
10.1" WSVGA CrystalBrite LED-blacklit display
Webcam, 5-in-1 card reader, Wi-Fi
W
My parents said they would get me a laptop. I asked how much they wanted to
spend and figured I'd ask you guys because you might make a little money!
Who wants to build me a laptop for about $200?
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Stephen wrote:
> I would look at newegg. I found mine there.
> On Nov 21, 2011 6:26 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote:
>
>> I searched through many google pages yet could not find a cradle. Anyone
>&
ems to be the best solution for the job at hand.
>>>>
>>>> also, I also never browse the web on a windows machine (safer that
>>>> way). I use OS X for most of my mail and web browsing stuff. I use linux
>>>> (as VINUX) for some development testing and f
I searched through many google pages yet could not find a cradle. Anyone
know where I could find one?
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No... it was a childhood phone number amd my initials.
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Eric Cope wrote:
> Depends... Was it 1234567abc? Just kidding :)
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> that's a good question! I meamn... I am SO imp
e is the highest, most beautiful form of love. In return, you
> will receive untold peace and happiness." - Dr. Robert Muller
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Before I left for Peru I got an email from Google telling me that someone
>> in
Before I left for Peru I got an email from Google telling me that someone
in China had accessed my gmail account and that I should change my password
unless it was me accessing my account from China. Well, I changed my pass
word. Then I went to Peru and was expecting them to send me another email
b
Great... I need cups and samba running. I think that cups starts
automatically but I don't think samba does or will once I get the hard
drives and install it. (I ordered two refurbished drives last night for a
total of 27 dollars) Could someone write a script for me that will start
samba when
thanks for the correction still no dice
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:05 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> lshw was not to be found. I even tried 'find lshw.txt /'
>>
>
> clearly not valid "find" syntax ...
>
n Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> I was thinking of ot for a back up thing.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
>> None of them since I would not buy anything from Tiger Direct. But
>> beyond that you do not had USB 2 or esat
e the file on your desktop.
>
> OK, so do this, open a terminal and type:
>
>> cd ~/Desktop
>> sudo lshw -short -C storage > lshw.txt
>> sudo lshw -short -C disk >> lshw.txt
>> sudo lshw -short -C volume >> lshw.txt
>> cat lshw.txt
>>
>
can either copy the contents and paste them into the email, or
> add the files as an attachment to the email.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> nothing returned
>> was I supposed to enter something besides what you told me? I tried:
>>
cool
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
> Fox News also had a story about it.
>
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/20/entire-computer-built-into-usb-thumb-drive/
>
>
> On 11/20/2011 17:16, Dazed_75 wrote:
>
> Still only a prototype and it will cost a lot more than a Ra
(not possible) or that it was empty (I am guessing you did not
> look) or that you saw no output on the screen (which is what would be
> expected)?
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Okay buddy, I got a big nothing!
>> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Des
ew" one that was manufactured
> 2-3 years ago for $60. In fact, for $8 I might buy two "just in case"
> since they are basically only warranted to work on arrival.
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> is this the right one to get?
>&g
is this the right one to get?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST340014A-40GB-7200RPM-warranty/dp/B00020ITLU
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root permissions.
>>> James C. yeah, same response. blank line On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM,
>>> Lisa Kachold **wrote: You have to be root to
>>> run fdisk -l # sudo fdisk -l On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Michael
>>> Havens wrote:
>>>
>>&g
Well, I got my brother online but we need to network the printer through
the linux box. What do I do?
1- Download samba
hm. problems. I guess I'll have to get the hard drive. Probably
need an installed system.
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
Reading package lists... Done
Buil
Well, my brother is up and on the internet!
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> thanks guys
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Derek Trotter
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a site I have bookmarked. I just checked and it's still there.
>>
fine if you can figure out the correct wiring order, but why
> not do it right in the first place...
>
> Brian
>
> On 11/20/2011 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> So I'm connecting my brothers computer to the internet . I ran the wire
> under the house yesterday (I
x27;t match at each end of the
>> cable or the colors are not what you expected?
>> If they don't match, that's a serious problem, pretty magical too.
>> If each end matches the other end, but the colors are not as expected,
>> then just assign each twisted pair to your
So I'm connecting my brothers computer to the internet . I ran the wire
under the house yesterday (I let him do that... I didn't want to get dirty)
and drilled a hole today and fed the cable through the hole. Then I
stripped the cable; first the blue pair, then the green pair, the. I'm
sure you
I just found out about the command 'lshw' and I wanted to know if it sees
my hard drive. Unfortunately, I can not see it all. the text scrolls
off of the screen. What is an option to make it pause after a screen of
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and apparently so is Libreoffice!
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen wrote:
> Libre office
>
> It is the non oracle fork from open office.
>
> I am mistrustful of oracle's stewardship of opensource software.
> On Nov 20, 2011 7:50 AM, "Michael Havens" wro
why did ubuntu decide to include libreoffice rather than openoffice.org?
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This one is even better! Which seller should I go with? Has anyone heard of
any of them?
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002.
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista)
>
>
> On Sun, Nov
use it.
> On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote:
>
>> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>> how about this drive:
>>>
>>>
&g
here is one: only 20GB.
Will this one work?
http://discountechnology.com/Seagate-20GB-Ultra-ATA-100-IDE-Hard-Drive-ST320014A?sc=2&category=5548
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn!
>
>
>
> On Sun, No
i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn!
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> how about this drive:
>
>
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=
how about this drive:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM
it is only 80 gb. Is that too big?
On Sun,
;> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out get SATA if you have a choice since
>> it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it.
>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it.
>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping).
>> http://en.wik
ormance, and the
> Ubuntu UI is very user friendly. The eeePC-linux community is very
> strong, so if your friend does encounter any issues, there is almost
> always a good explanation available on Ubuntu forums.
>
> On 11/19/11, Michael Havens wrote:
> > good to hear. thamks.
this is the ad:
http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/ that
I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/ that an eide
drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As stated before I
don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM NetVista computer.
This is what they're trying to sell:
Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar
No money! Unable to get there. No money!
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
> Head over to Fry's. They have USB 2 and 3 add on cards. USB 3 is
> backwards compatible with USB 2.
>
>
> On 11/19/2011 16:26, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> One more thing...
you are
> booting from.
>
>
> blank line implies you are not running fdisk with root permissions. James
> C. yeah, same response. blank line On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Lisa
> Kachold **wrote: You have to be root to run
> fdisk -l # sudo fdisk -l On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9
So then Removable Devices does not automaticly say USB? Even though there
is specificly a CD Rom option? Hmm
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> mobo is IDE I'm stuck in the 90s! I use peoples refuse computers. I
> got a free computer from one pugger
her a sata dock (you'll want to put a fan on
>> it)
>> or get a hotswap drive bay.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 16:26, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>> One more thing I don't think I have USB 2.0
>>>
>>>
>>>
One more thing I don't think I have USB 2.0
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> thanks, JD. Do you know the terms I need to enter into google to find what
> I'm looking for? What I want is an external housing for a single hard disk
> drive (maybe
, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM, JD Austin wrote:
> Some OS's don't boot well from an external drive but Linux does just fine.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 15:41, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> I was just looking at my startup devices menu and the first in line is
>> &#x
I was just looking at my startup devices menu and the first in line is
'Removable devices.' Does an external hard drive not count for that?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> h I just went into office max (the best thing we have for a
> c
drive and on the FD tell it the information is on the ED. I know
this is possible because I had a linux friend doing something similar to
this. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> I'm doing my research to find one of the
I'm doing my research to find one of these online and I am unsure of the
search terms. What exactly should I enter to find one in which I can insert
and remove standard desktop hard drives? Would it be 5.25" enclosure or
3.5"?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Michael Havens wrote
As you all know my hard drive is no more and all of my spares are kaput as
well. I was thinking that instead of an internal hard drive I would get an
external one. Then, I could always have my computer with me:!) I have a
NetVista computer. Do any of you know if I will have a problem booting from
a
yeah, same response. blank line
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
> You have to be root to run fdisk -l
>
> # sudo fdisk -l
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> I mis spoke it is a new-used drive. I've had it a w
emember having any major issues.
>
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
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>> I know.. it is an 'EMachine'!
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> If its a eeepc or e-pc that wi
> Check your bios to see if it's there.
> If not there might be a power cable issue?
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> same response after I added the 'a'
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Stephen wrote:
&g
I suppose if lspci doesn't show it it aint there anymore!
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
> Yes, just like that mall I saw in the John Belushi picture about 30
> years ago. It even had a drive thru.
>
>
> On 11/18/2011 07:38 PM, Michael Havens wro
; If you're using something else, you'll have to ask around or look up it's
>> documentation.
>>
>> On 11/18/2011 05:54 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> pray, tell! what is that how do I get to it?
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Derek T
I am devestated! They only carry external hard drives; BUT they told me
where to go.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> WOW. Walmaer carries them! They have everything.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Great:(! Now,
WOW. Walmaer carries them! They have everything.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> Great:(! Now, where do I buy a hard drive up here. I haven't seen any
> computer stores up here. Can I get one at walmart?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:00 AM, De
u're using something else, you'll have to ask around or look up it's
> documentation.
>
> On 11/18/2011 05:54 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> pray, tell! what is that how do I get to it?
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Derek Trotter
> wrote:
>
>
I just tried another hard disk drive but got the same response. I don't
think it is the drives!
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
> pray, tell! what is that how do I get to it?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Derek Trotter
> wrote:
&g
pray, tell! what is that how do I get to it?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Derek Trotter wrote:
> Try mountmanager
>
>
>
> On 11/18/2011 05:18 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> Any idea as to what I can do to see it. There is a picture on it from my
> winows daze t
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