Thanks for the info.
I had to find the time for read all the mails.
I also found some useful info on internet:
http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space?theme=print
http://www.xenotime.net/linux/doc/swap-mini-howto.txt
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Marco Savo savoma...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the info.
I had to find the time for read all the mails.
I also found some useful info on internet:
http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space?theme=print
...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Kurt
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:06 PM
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Subject: Re: FLASH disk as swap
On 12/3/09 9:39 AM, der.hans wrote:
Having swap be 1.5 times the size of ram is good, double the size of
ram is better
From: Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com
What about a large database, maybe a couple of terabytes, and maybe
lots of users. And then let's say we spread our 6G of swap over
several disks. Maybe a system with 32GB of memory, and quad
processors. Maybe we could run some tests, anybody have a system
Can you share which changes you made to improve those Apache barfers?
Eric
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:
From: Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com
What about a large database, maybe a couple of terabytes, and maybe
lots of users. And then let's say we
From: Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:34 AM,danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:
I've seen the Apache boxes hit swap heavily, fall over, and barf,
but that's been a lot less common since we changed a few things
early this year. YMMV, obviously.
Can you share which changes
Hello,
I have a *simple* question:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP? someone told me that there
is a limited numbers of write that is possible doing, so that will
reduce the life of the flash. But what about SSD hard drives then? are
not NAND flash as well? and which is the best filesistem
I have been using flash drives for swap for ages, even before I knew that I
shouldn't...:)
So far, so good, YMMV.
ET
Marco Savo writes:
Hello,
I have a *simple* question:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP? someone told me that there
is a limited numbers of write that is
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Marco Savo wrote:
Hello,
I have a *simple* question:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP?
Probably, but why would you want to? For a normal desktop or server,
I see a lot of disadvantages and no advantages over putting swap on a
regular HDD. Post up
I have run Linux desktops without swap and most of the time it was
just fine (it had a large amount of ram so i don't think it cared.
but what i understood of the issue now given the large amount of cheap
ram swap is generally not needed unless a program needs it for a
graceful moment
On Thu,
swap is generally not needed
This doesn't correlate with my experience...
But then again, my experience can be wrong.:)
What I (believe to) have seen however, is that Linux wants swap no matter
what.
I also tend to abuse the memory though.
Is there an official answer for the question
From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org wrote:
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Marco Savo wrote:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP?
Probably, but why would you want to?
Might as well ask Why would you want to make a softRAID-5 out of
a
Am 03. Dez, 2009 schwätzte Marco Savo so:
moin moin Marco,
I have a *simple* question:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP? someone told me that there
It's absolutely possible.
is a limited numbers of write that is possible doing, so that will
reduce the life of the flash. But what
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: FLASH disk as swap
swap is generally not needed
This doesn't correlate with my experience
Am 03. Dez, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so:
Swap is basically hard drive space used so that when your computer wants to
do something in memory and it doesn't have enough space left, it will
suspend and copy some running programs to the swap disk, it doesn't use
regular file system for speed, so it
] On Behalf Of der.hans
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:52 AM
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Subject: RE: FLASH disk as swap
Am 03. Dez, 2009 schwätzte Bob Elzer so:
Swap is basically hard drive space used so that when your computer
wants to do something in memory and it doesn't have enough
Oficially it doesnt NEED it, but it can greatly improve the stability
of a system and some smoothness of havy applications or anything that
was super clean in its memory allocation.
In a desktop its not an issue, but also not something i would do on
anything with less than 4g of ram.
in a server
On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org wrote:
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Marco Savo wrote:
it is possible use a FLASH drive as SWAP?
Probably, but why would you want to?
Might as well ask Why would you want to make a
Alex Dean wrote:
And, seriously, RAID6 on 5.25 floppies is *way* cooler. :)
Reminds me of when we put sortwork files on tapes. :)
(something you'd never want to do, but it makes the tape drives dance!)
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Honestly thats part of the fun i personally learn something every time :-)
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
No, you're probably right, I stated it incorrectly.
--
A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
rolling over and going
Of Stephen
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: FLASH disk as swap
Honestly thats part of the fun i personally learn something every time :-)
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
No, you're probably right, I stated
memory you give to the ram disk. :-)
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Subject: Re: FLASH disk
On 12/3/09 9:39 AM, der.hans wrote:
Having swap be 1.5 times the size of ram is good, double the size of ram
is better.
Those are old-school heuristics from back in the day when 32 MB was a
lot of RAM. I stretch to think of a case where 6-8 GB of swap would
come into play at *all*. That is,
Kurt Granroth wrote:
On 12/3/09 9:39 AM, der.hans wrote:
Having swap be 1.5 times the size of ram is good, double the size of ram
is better.
Those are old-school heuristics from back in the day when 32 MB was a
lot of RAM. I stretch to think of a case where 6-8 GB of swap would
come
5:06 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: FLASH disk as swap
On 12/3/09 9:39 AM, der.hans wrote:
Having swap be 1.5 times the size of ram is good, double the size of
ram is better.
Those are old-school heuristics from back in the day when 32 MB was a lot of
RAM. I stretch
maybe.
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