Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-27 Thread Jordan Aberle
Entertaining video, it's a long watch but worth while: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4oB28ksiIo --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread gm5729
Okay I have been pondering on most of this thread the past few days. Then going back and reading the news reports and other URLS that were provided. On the encryption side, let's make enemies now. Truecrypt is a PITA and very, very, very easily can damage encrypted data with the design of their

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread Jordan Aberle
It's good to have topics like these that invoke thought. My 2cents: I try to apply moderation in every way in my life, too much of something isn't a good thing. I think this idea applies to security as well. I'm not saying just moderate security, I think we all know here encryption, in the end

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread Jordan Aberle
A few words about Truecrypt. Overall I really like truecrypt, of course there are risks when using any kind of encryption. If the volume gets corrupt the chances of recovering data are slim to none. An obvious easy solution is: Backup. :) The chances of a truecrypt volume failing as well as a

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi! Please come to any of our PLUG Hackfests and we can demonstrate? I believe in that specific example, I was using the UTF8 inclusion into a jpeg/gif or png. And you trust me, so you go ahead a open it. But there are a great number of other ways, since we allow HTML mail and attachments of

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread keith smith
Maybe the Amish really have it right. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 12/20/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-20 Thread gm5729
Well Fonomo is kinda fun with Pidgin. I wish I could come Lisa but the 2000 miles of space can be cost prohibitive for a person like me. :) Okay I see where you are talking about the LivePerson, Kayseya and LogMeIn I must be one of the weird ones at least on my home computers. I do have to

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-18 Thread Ed
from a development perspective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2014004 lesson - document those commits On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting information: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-techm=129236621626462w=2 Jordan

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-18 Thread Lisa Kachold
I like this one; it separates the chaf from the stones: http://extendedsubset.com/ On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ed p...@0x1b.com wrote: from a development perspective: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2014004 lesson - document those commits On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jordan

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-18 Thread James Finstrom
Somewhere glenn beck is crying We assume no security is worth anything so you must secure through obscurity. Assume yoor info will be found so surround it by more info. Wikileaks and most legislation shows practical implimentation of this. It is difficult to find a sentence in 10,000 pages. On

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-18 Thread Jordan Aberle
On another note: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9201281/The_clock_is_ticking_on_encryption --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-18 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.comwrote: On another note: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9201281/The_clock_is_ticking_on_encryption --- Good article! -- (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread keith smith
jordan.abe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.com Subject: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 2:37 PM Interesting information: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-techm=129236621626462w=2 Jordan

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Lisa Kachold
. Keith Smith --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.com Subject: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 2:37 PM

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Jordan Aberle
...@obnosis.com* wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:13 PM On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comhttp://mc

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Lisa Kachold
not the other way around. Keith Smith --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com* wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Lisa Kachold
. Keith Smith --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com* wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:13 PM On Fri, Dec 17, 2010

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Lisa Kachold
...@gmail.com * wrote: From: Jordan Aberle jordan.abe...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jordan.abe...@gmail.com Subject: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.ushttp://mc/compose?to=plug-disc...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, December 17, 2010

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Jordan Aberle
your right. and had given in. The government is here for us not the other way around. Keith Smith --- On *Fri, 12/17/10, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com* wrote: From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com Subject: Re: OpenBSD and the FBI To: Main PLUG

Re: OpenBSD and the FBI

2010-12-17 Thread Lisa Kachold
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:09 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: We do what we did on Nov 2nd. We vote and we speak out. We push for the reduction of our Government and we become aware of what the judges are doing and get the right judges in place by recalling or impeaching the