RE: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Jason
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 00:36 -0700, Bob Elzer wrote: > They probably just layed off the Vista People :-) > They can't lay off the Vista people. Who would repackage Vista into Windows 7 and call it "new and different"? Windows 7 is to Vista as Obama is to Bush. (No different) > --

RE: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Bob Elzer
ailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen P Rufle Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:07 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs > For most people, a P4 running XP is all they will need for the rest of > their life in all honesty, until the

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Stephen
Crossover was very good for a number of things. the issues i had was trying to get some of the cisco apps to run, they may be java but id be durned to get them to work in anything but a VM, and then i needed to run the blackberry software and that ran in wine, but i didnt get the USB transaltion t

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread James Finstrom
I have had decent luck with crossover. It is not free software (but it was free as in beer for a day) I don't actually do much with it as I have been clean from windows so long I actually had to go seek out apps to install in it because I didn't use any windows apps. I was able to run googles new b

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Stephen
Honestly i liked vista, i ran the beta and it was weird but there were a number of thigns, the weird started to fade away as MS released backwards compatability patches and software developers wrote their code to be more compatible. Windows 7 is looking to fix a few of my bigger complaints of Vista

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Joe Fleming
Yeah, I helped an ex of mine buy a laptop and she kept asking if she really needed Windows and saying that she wanted to delete it. Not because she didn't like it, she didn't realize it was the OS.. or really even understand what that meant. -Joe James Finstrom wrote: > Just a side note on pe

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread Stephen P Rufle
> For most people, a P4 running XP is all they will need for the rest > of their life in all honesty, until the machine dies on them. That means that once you get a person to go with an FLOSS solution they also will not stray. I would also be interested to know if those SSD in netbooks will make

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread keith smith
t layed off the Vista People :-) > > > _ > > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith > smith > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:10 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-23 Thread James Finstrom
phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith > smith > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:10 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs > > > > I think we tend to look at Microsoft and a $150 license fe

RE: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Bob Elzer
They probably just layed off the Vista People :-) _ From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of keith smith Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:10 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 09:10 -0800, keith smith wrote: > > I think we tend to look at Microsoft and a $150 license fee for XP or > Vista as a lot of money. There are other costs to consider. What is > your time worth? > http://www.crn.com/software/212902058 quotes the following prices in

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Joe Fleming
I gotta say, I think you put too much weight on piracy. As has been mentioned around here before, most people are very happy with their older machines and see no need to upgrade either hardware or software. For most people, a P4 running XP is all they will need for the rest of their life in all

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 09:10 -0800, keith smith wrote: > I think we tend to look at Microsoft and a $150 license fee for XP or > Vista as a lot of money. There are other costs to consider. What is > your time worth? Neither XP nor Vista gets $150 for Microsoft if OEM. Only the retail versio

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread JD Austin
Yes :) Apple figured that trick out a long time ago (grin) -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Fred Allen - "Television is a medium because anything well done is rare." On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jerry Davis wro

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Jerry Davis
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:41:16 -0700 JD Austin wrote: > If I were Microsoft I'd use OSS as a jump off point, slap a pretty user > interface on it and sell it with support. OS X -- Happy Trails! Jerry (K7AZJ) Hobbit Name: Pimpernel Loamsdown Registered Linux User: 275424 This email's random fortu

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread JD Austin
Most people would still buy their software provided that it was priced reasonably. Microsoft Office ***upgrade*** version is over $300. If I were Microsoft I'd use OSS as a jump off point, slap a pretty user interface on it and sell it with support. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread keith smith
White Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:41 AM On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 09:26 -0700, James Finstrom wrote: > http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/microsoft-layoffs-live-msft > > I lived a short while in Washington and

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread keith smith
I think we tend to look at Microsoft and a $150 license fee for XP or Vista as a lot of money.  There are other costs to consider.  What is your time worth? Most people do not have the need nor the desire to learn Linux. I personally like the Windows operating system for my desk top.  I run Li

Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

2009-01-22 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 09:26 -0700, James Finstrom wrote: > http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/microsoft-layoffs-live-msft > > I lived a short while in Washington and knew many Microsoft employees > so in a general sense Microsoft laying off 5000 people sucks but in > another sense I would like to