right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Dan Lund
I am right on the edge here, there's only so much you can hold back when rhetoric is hitting your last nerve and it's unethical to respond because it goes against the the very social order your attempting to preserve. (this group that is) Does it really require filters and unsubscrib

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Tuna
I am seriously tempted not to participate in any PLUG mailing lists if something isn't done about all this. > I am right on the edge here, there's only so much you can hold back > when rhetoric is hitting your last nerve and it's unethical to respond > because it goes aga

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Joshua Zeidner
what do you want to happen? -jmz On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am seriously tempted not to participate in any PLUG mailing lists if > something isn't done about all this. > > > I am right on the edge here, there's only so

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Tony E - Jaraeth
7:48 PM, Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I am seriously tempted not to participate in any PLUG mailing lists if > something isn't done about all this. > > > I am right on the edge here, there's only so much you

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Ryan Rix
L PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > I am seriously tempted not to participate in any PLUG mailing lists > if > > something isn't done about all this. > > > > > I am right on the edge here, there's only s

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Alan Dayley
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Rix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, this, imo, immature bickering about who was or was not elected > needs to stop. We all have our own opinions and will fight to the death. I > suggest making a rule, at least, not to touch: > > *Politics > *Religion I ag

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Ryan Rix
HI Alan, Though I am a high school student, most nights I am available to moderate discussions of this sort. Perhaps stick all OT in a moderation queue and let someone (even if it's not me, honestly I am indifferent on you nominating me, if that's what you meant to do) pick through and eliminat

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread mike havens
I nominate. ME! I can picture it now; to rule with an iron fist! When can I start? I can't wait! -- :-)~MIKE~(-: :}) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-05 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 21:40 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Ryan Rix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree, this, imo, immature bickering about who was or was not elected > > needs to stop. We all have our own opinions and will fight to the death. I > > suggest making a

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread hoyden
Remember this? "PLUG is a very informal group of people in the Phoenix, Arizona, USA area who get together several times a month. We talk about the state of Linux, what we've recently done with Linux, share problems and create solutions. No knowledge of Linux is presumed or required, although most

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread keith smith
ucate yourself.  Now lets return the list to those who want to talk Linux. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 11/6/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: right on the edge... To: "Main PLUG discussion list"

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread blake gonterman
11/6/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: right on the edge... To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 12:04 AM > > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 21:40 -0700, Alan Dayley

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread blake gonterman
11/6/08, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: right on the edge... To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 12:04 AM > > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 21:40 -0700, Alan Dayley

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread Jason Hayes
Craig, For crying out loud. Drop it already! We all get it. You like Obama. You don't like conservatives. You don't like Mike. You don't like Keith. You don't like Christ. Everyone but you (and those with whom you agree) is "extreme" and "irrelevant." You've already "moderated" those points to

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread Nathan
On Thursday 06 November 2008 09:13:49 hoyden wrote: > Remember this? > > "PLUG is a very informal group of people in the Phoenix, Arizona, USA > area who get together several times a month. We talk about the state of > Linux, what we've recently done with Linux, share problems and create > solutio

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread mike havens
I'll bite my tou. The good guys tounge. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 06 November 2008 09:13:49 hoyden wrote: > > Remember this? > > > > "PLUG is a very informal group of people in the Phoenix, Arizona, USA > > area who get together severa

Re: right on the edge...

2008-11-06 Thread mike havens
The majority has spoken. group think is a good thing.What must be the good guys have won. This is regardless of any personal opinions The goodguys must have won. the right guys for the team. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:31 PM, mike havens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll bite my tou

OT: [maybe] What does one want to happen? (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Schwartz
t; > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > I am seriously tempted not to participate in any PLUG mailing lists if > > something isn't done about all this. > > > >

Re: OT: [maybe] What does one want to happen? (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-05 Thread Ryan Rix
> > "Raptus regaliter" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.phoenixwing.com/ > > > > > > > > Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > > > > what do you want to happen? -jmz > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tuna <

an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Schwartz
I think it would be preferable to have the decisions made by the moderator, not be [normally] decisions to KILL a given post or thread "completely", but rather, just result in -- at worst -- the post or thread getting "moved" to another discussion list, (maybe call it the "PLUG-Alt"

Re: an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-06 Thread Ryan Rix
This seems reasonable :) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Mike Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be preferable to have the decisions made >by the moderator, not be [normally] decisions to KILL a given >post or thread "completely", but rather, just result in -- at wors

Re: an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-06 Thread Tim Noeding
I don't think that this should be such a big deal. Hearing somone elses opinion shouldn't be a problem or a foreign concept. We should respect and accept that we won't always agree with eachother. I do feel that we have already discussed the OT situation and it was decided that OT was to be p

Re: an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-06 Thread Ryan Rix
Hi, >I don't think that this should be such a big deal. Hearing somone elses opinion shouldn't be a problem or a foreign concept. We should >respect and accept that we won't always agree with eachother. I do feel that we have already discussed the OT situation and it was >decided that OT was to be

Re: an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Schwartz
> I personally enjoy reading each and every post whether on or off topic. NO PROBLEM! as already pointed out, >...> Those who choose to do so, can subscribe to BOTH lists. So, you can join the class of readers who take advantage of the "opportunity", to sign up on both lists. The question is, sh

Re: an idea for keeping the moderating sorta "low pressure" (was: Re: right on the edge...)

2008-11-06 Thread hoyden
>> Hearing somone elses opinion shouldn't be a problem or a foreign concept. >> [...] > > I know, maybe it's them and not us, if something like > some honest sincere opinions (180 degrees apart, in > alternating posts) can scare them off. I actually can sorta > see an argument for claiming