Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Bowers
> > [...] > > Anyway, my point in this is just to point out that we already do this > with > > pmwiki with authuser.php -- it's just a question of expanding the set of > > recipes that are included and figuring out QA procedures and etc. > > Then my counter-point is that we *don't* already do this

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-20 Thread The Editor
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:35:49PM +0100, Peter Bowers wrote: >> > > one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major >> > > cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox >> > >> > This isn't likely to happen (the drop

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-20 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:35:49PM +0100, Peter Bowers wrote: > > > one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major > > > cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox > > > > This isn't likely to happen (the drop-down list or checkbox part), > > because we don't want the webser

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Bowers
> > one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major > > cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox > > This isn't likely to happen (the drop-down list or checkbox part), > because we don't want the webserver to have write permission to > the cookbook/ directory. I *think* th

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread John Rankin
On Tuesday, 20 January 2009 11:21 AM, Petko Yotov <5...@5ko.fr> wrote: >On Monday 19 January 2009 21:44:49 John Rankin wrote: > >> - include a wikilib.d directory as part of each package with >> that package's documentation; activating the package would >> automatically look for a wikilib.d dir

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread Petko Yotov
On Monday 19 January 2009 21:44:49 John Rankin wrote: > Hello Petko and please let me add my congratulations. Thank you John! > >Priority Checklist : > > > >1. Security bugfixes > >2. Bugfixes > >3. Documentation updates, translations > > I'm not clear how documentation of "bundles" will work Th

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread John Rankin
>Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:33:16 +0100 >From: Petko Yotov <5...@5ko.fr> >Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new > release manager >On Friday 16 January 2009 06:12:23 Patrick R. Michaud wrote: >> Petko Yotov has graciously

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread The Editor
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 08:39:53PM +0100, jdd wrote: >> > Priority Checklist : >> >> one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major >> cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox > > This isn't likely to happen (the

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread michael paulukonis
> This is also why PmWiki doesn't come with a web-based "installer" -- > it means that the files all get the wrong ownerships and permissions > if done that way. but... would it be possible to have _another_ interface w/in the cookbook directory that could work this way? IE, something outside the

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread Oliver Betz
"Patrick R. Michaud" wrote: >> one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major >> cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox > >This isn't likely to happen (the drop-down list or checkbox part), >because we don't want the webserver to have write permission to >the cookbook/ d

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-19 Thread Oliver Betz
"Patrick R. Michaud" wrote: >> Can we have a couple of popular/standard pre-packaged downloads. Such >> as a blog, graphics, authenticity... > >I'm not at all opposed to providing pre-packaged downloads, >where select recipes are included as part of the bundle. >However, part of the issue is figur

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-18 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 08:39:53PM +0100, jdd wrote: > > Priority Checklist : > > one thing is probably very important: have some way to install major > cookbooks from a drop down list or checkbox This isn't likely to happen (the drop-down list or checkbox part), because we don't want the webserv

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-17 Thread jdd
Petko Yotov a écrit : > You can imagine how thrilled and honored I am to help out with the PmWiki > development. knowing your skills and friendlyness, I think this a very good thing for us :-) > 1. Follow the PmWiki Philosophy. These are the founding principles of the > software, the developme

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-17 Thread Henrik Bechmann
Congratulations Petko. This is a very exciting step forward. Have fun!! - Henrik Petko Yotov wrote: On Friday 16 January 2009 06:12:23 Patrick R. Michaud wrote: Petko Yotov has graciously agreed to serve as PmWiki's "release manager" and site maintainer. Hello to all! :-) You can

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-17 Thread Petko Yotov
On Friday 16 January 2009 06:12:23 Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > Petko Yotov has graciously agreed to serve as PmWiki's "release > manager" and site maintainer. Hello to all! :-) You can imagine how thrilled and honored I am to help out with the PmWiki development. I'll probably need some time to

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-17 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 08:06:40AM +0100, jdd wrote: > Patrick R. Michaud a écrit : > >> two stable a year and betas monthly? > > > > Until we start a 2.3 version of PmWiki, I don't expect there to > > be any more betas. > > what I mean is that I don't want to upgrade any month if not mandatory >

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread jdd
Patrick R. Michaud a écrit : >> two stable a year and betas monthly? > > Until we start a 2.3 version of PmWiki, I don't expect there to > be any more betas. > > Put another way, I hope the 2.2 series remains stable for quite > some time. Indeed, it already has :-). > > Pm what I mean is that

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Shanley
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > I'm not at all opposed to providing pre-packaged downloads, > where select recipes are included as part of the bundle. > However, part of the issue is figuring out where to put them -- > if we keep them in "cookbook/", a PmWiki upgrade

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread pmwiki
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:27:47 -0600 "Patrick R. Michaud" wrote: > > I'm not at all opposed to providing pre-packaged downloads, > where select recipes are included as part of the bundle. > However, part of the issue is figuring out where to put them -- > if we keep them in "cookbook/", a PmWiki u

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 08:13:03AM -0800, pmw...@911networks.com wrote: > I'd like to make a request / suggestion with the releases: > > Can we have a couple of popular/standard pre-packaged downloads. Such > as a blog, graphics, authenticity... I'm not at all opposed to providing pre-packaged do

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread DaveG
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:13:03 -0800, pmw...@911networks.com wrote: > Can we have a couple of popular/standard pre-packaged downloads. Such > as a blog, graphics, authenticity... Whilst I'm not sure that would work for the core + cookbooks, it's something I intended to do for Blogger. Provide both t

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:20:37PM +0100, jdd wrote: > Michael Shanley a écrit : > > > We might find that once a month is perfect in the long run. It feels > > like the right amount of time to implement a few features and squash > > bugs. Better to have fewer stable features now than have many uns

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread pmwiki
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:26:35 -0600 Ben Stallings wrote: > Thank you, Pm, and thank you Petko!! I'd like to make a request / suggestion with the releases: Can we have a couple of popular/standard pre-packaged downloads. Such as a blog, graphics, authenticity... Let me explain: Some place wante

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:09:38AM -0500, Michael Shanley wrote: > Maybe we can consider numbering versions as Version.Year.Month? It would imply > we're in version 2.2.1 right now, so at least it transmits more meaningful > information... While I'd like to see a release every month, I'm not wanti

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Ben Stallings
pmwiki-users-requ...@pmichaud.com wrote: > Petko Yotov has graciously agreed to serve as PmWiki's "release > manager" and site maintainer. Over the past couple of years I've > had many opportunities to interact with Petko via email, IRC, and > even in person, and I trust his ability to keep PmWik

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:09:08PM +0100, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > Question: Are we talking about Petko filling two roles, or do you seem > them as very closely integrated? (The answer later in your post seem to > indicate the former). I view it as two separate roles, but they're also

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread jdd
Michael Shanley a écrit : > We might find that once a month is perfect in the long run. It feels > like the right amount of time to implement a few features and squash > bugs. Better to have fewer stable features now than have many unstable > features for a longer period of time, right? two stabl

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Michael Shanley
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Christian Ridderström < christian.ridderst...@gmail.com> wrote: > firm believer in the value of time-based releases -- i.e., releases that >> ... >> going to let him to determine the frequency and timing to be used, but I >> ask that we have a new release of PmWiki

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-16 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: Petko Yotov has graciously agreed to serve as PmWiki's "release manager" and site maintainer. That's great! Question: Are we talking about Petko filling two roles, or do you seem them as very closely integrated? (The answer later in your post se

Re: [pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-15 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:12:23PM -0600, Patrick R. Michaud wrote: > First, the headline: PmWiki 2.2.0 (non-beta) will be released > this Sunday, January 18th. It will likely be essentially the > current beta version of PmWiki -- potentially with some minor bugfixes > but no other expected majo

[pmwiki-users] Pre-announcing 2.2.0 non-beta release, new release manager

2009-01-15 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
First, the headline: PmWiki 2.2.0 (non-beta) will be released this Sunday, January 18th. It will likely be essentially the current beta version of PmWiki -- potentially with some minor bugfixes but no other expected major changes from the current beta65 version. Now, some other details: As man