Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-12 Thread Oliver Betz
"Patrick R. Michaud" wrote: [...] >Storing data and metadata in a single file was a very conscious >design choice in PmWiki -- I wanted pages to be well encapsulated >and didn't want to ever have to worry about them getting out-of-sync. It is safe and easy to handle, e.g. when moving, copying,

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-08 Thread Patrick R. Michaud
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 12:14:38AM +0100, Eric Forgeot wrote: > On 03/11/2013 22:54, Tamara Temple wrote: > On the other hand, there is something I like very much on dokuwiki, > and find annoying on pmwiki: it's the way data are stored. I regret > all history and metadata are kept in the same files

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-08 Thread Eric Forgeot
On 03/11/2013 22:54, Tamara Temple wrote: I’d like to see the core improving, and it does. /.../ Monolithism is rather awful to deal with on many systems. What I would love to see, though, is a package management system that makes installing and updating recipes and skins easier, and aids dev

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-05 Thread Tamara Temple
On Nov 5, 2013, at 6:14 PM, Simon wrote: > Ian and Tamara > > I am not advocating PmWiki becoming bloatware or 'all things to all people'. > Far from it. > > And I think that the recipe system is great. I've created two recipes, it was > a challenge for me, but I could do it, great. > > My

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-05 Thread Simon
Ian and Tamara I am not advocating PmWiki becoming bloatware or 'all things to all people'. Far from it. And I think that the recipe system is great. I've created two recipes, it was a challenge for me, but I could do it, great. My concern is the opposite. If the PmWiki core is (too?) small, and

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-05 Thread Simon
Petko, reflecting on your reply I apologise for my very poor choice of words. in no way did I mean to in any way diminish or be critical of the fantastic job you have done on PmWiki, you have in every way continued to keep the PmWiki platform current, address security issues, fix bugs, etc as you

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-03 Thread Tamara Temple
On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Simon wrote: > I'm soliciting some discussion from the PmWiki community on the approach to > having features and functionality added to the PmWiki core. > > There are a number of PITS entries that request modest enhancements to > PmWiki, most of which would benefit

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-03 Thread Ian MacGregor
I would like to add something from my experience. In my years of experience, when a software package tries to become "all things to all people", as Petko put it, it begins to lose its appeal. It becomes too large to effectively maintain and ends up with so many problems that fixing one problem

Re: [pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-03 Thread Petko Yotov
Simon writes: My concern is that if PmWiki is 'all recipes' and 'no improvements' it leads I'd prefer using the correct words. You use 'no improvements' when you mean 'not adding additional features that have had about a single vote in 4 years'. I'd like to imagine that PmWiki has somewhat

[pmwiki-users] The Philosophy of PmWiki: adding to the core

2013-11-02 Thread Simon
I'm soliciting some discussion from the PmWiki community on the approach to having features and functionality added to the PmWiki core . There are a number of PITS entries that request modest enhancements to P