Re: Recent pod

2013-02-25 Thread Allison Randal
On 02/25/2013 09:26 AM, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Feb 25, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Better (since it doesn't change the formatting): >> >>=item 0Z<> >> >>=item *Z<> > > I think S<> would work, too. Those are all pretty weird hacks, and make for ugly Pod. Can the leve

Re: Bad `=for` spec (WAS: How can one put a table into a pod)

2011-04-26 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/24/2011 06:19 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > > I have just taken a look at this. They totally screwed up `=for`. A > `=for` paragraph does not need a `=end for`. That was a decision made by the early developers of PseudoPod, and I kept it in my implementation for backward compatibility in par

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-26 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/25/2011 08:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: > On 04/23/2011 11:53 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote: >> On Apr 23, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: >> >>> I was thinking that PseudoPod implemented most of what might be >>> needed, and so why not ship that. >>> >>> Its table spec looks quite

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/23/2011 03:12 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: On 04/23/2011 01:09 PM, Karl Williamson wrote: I don't know how to put a table into a pod. One can simulate it by using as-is formatting, but it's not very good. There also doesn't appear to be a way to extend the pod language in a backwards compa

Re: [rt.cpan.org #55602] Bug #12239 was a mistake (nested formatting codes)

2010-03-16 Thread Allison Randal
Russ Allbery wrote: This is not the sort of thing that one gets to change retroactively, I'm afraid, no matter how nice it would be for consistency. Agreed on keeping Perl 5 pod changes minimal, but I thought it always worked that way. Does anyone have an old pod parser around to test? Where

Re: [rt.cpan.org #55602] Bug #12239 was a mistake (nested formatting codes)

2010-03-16 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo Signes wrote: * Allison Randal [2010-03-16T08:01:49] David E. Wheeler wrote: My interpretation of that was that any angle brackets inside should be considered literal, and thus escaped. The whole point of `<< >>` AFAICS was to allow one to use literal brackets with

Re: [rt.cpan.org #55602] Bug #12239 was a mistake (nested formatting codes)

2010-03-16 Thread Allison Randal
David E. Wheeler wrote: My interpretation of that was that any angle brackets inside should be considered literal, and thus escaped. The whole point of `<< >>` AFAICS was to allow one to use literal brackets without escaping them, as one must do in `<>`. That's my interpretation too. If yo

Re: deprecating L<"Section">

2009-12-12 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo Signes wrote: * "David E. Wheeler" [2009-12-01T14:03:21] Jesus Christ. I don't think they should be in Pod::Simple. So I'd like to remove them. Anyone else have any opinions? Allison? HDP? RJBS? TorgoX? I do not like them in Pod-Simple. I think if they are in Pod-Spec, it's a little

Re: XHTML formatter 'xhtml' regions

2009-12-11 Thread Allison Randal
David E. Wheeler wrote: On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: http://github.com/rjbs/pod-simple/tree/xhtml-region David and I spoke about this on AIM a little... Right now, given this input in Pod::Simple::HTML: =begin html ... =end html The HTML is passed through untouc

Re: Pod::Simple "simplification"

2009-12-11 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo Signes wrote: I would like to refactor the code as I work so that methods are easier to find, use, and replace as needed. Maybe I can fill in some of the "to do" documentation, once I understand what the hell is going on. Is anyone going to be put off by these kinds of changes *in gene

Re: expanding =begin

2009-12-01 Thread Allison Randal
David E. Wheeler wrote: Makes sense to me, but I think that you need to update the regex to include the (optional) parameter. Something like: C Best is to keep the regex the same for the formatname (which is strictly defined), and just say "everything after the space to the end of the li

Re: expanding =begin

2009-12-01 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo Signes wrote: I'd like to extend this definition a bit. I would replace the second paragraph with: "=begin formatname" "=begin formatname parameter" ... It is advised that formatnames match the regexp "m/\A:?[−a−zA−Z0−9_]+\z/". Everything following whitespace aft

Re: allowing L

2009-12-01 Thread Allison Randal
David E. Wheeler wrote: FWIW, Pod::Simple already parses things as you expect. Here's the relevant comment: Yes, as David says, no problem, Sean actually implemented it years ago in Pod::Simple. # L # L or L # L or L or L<"sec"> # L # L or L # L or L or L # L # L So I'll

Re: Pod Include: A Desired Perl Pod Enhancement

2009-08-15 Thread Allison Randal
Tom Browder wrote: Solved! But what about Perll 5? I'm using a preprocessor for now, but =use would be very handy. It's unlikely that any Pod format changes will go into Perl 5, but you may see the Perl 6 version available to use later this year. Allison

Re: Pod Include: A Desired Perl Pod Enhancement

2009-08-14 Thread Allison Randal
Tom Browder wrote: I would like to see Perl pod have a native include command so that a pod chunk can dynamically include the text at, for example, pod2usage time. I would like to submit that as a desired enhancement but assume it needs to be discussed here first. See =use in the Perl 6 Pod s

Re: X<> vs. X<< >>

2009-05-25 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I keep telling myself that I am the *only* person who is interested in the idea of restructuring perlpodspec to be more... structured. Nah, certainly not the first, just the most recent in a series of us. I mean, perlpodspec itself was written with that very thought in

Re: Pod POD pod poD pOd or P.O.D.

2009-05-24 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I am not clear on whether this paragraph says or means much: Throughout this document, "Pod" has been the preferred spelling for the name of the documentation format. One may also use "POD" or "pod". For the documentation that is (typically) in the Pod format, you may

Re: X<> vs. X<< >>

2009-05-24 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: perlpodspec gives "two syntaxes" for formatting codes. There's X and X<< content >>. In the "two or more angle brackets" form, the whitespace immediately following << and preceding >> are not renderable. That's fine, but I'm confused as to why that isn't just the universa

Re: '=item #' dwimmery

2008-11-03 Thread Allison Randal
John McNamara wrote: >>"=item 1" equates to an list item. >No, it's not, because it requires the POD generator to manually number things. In terms of pod generators yes but in terms of pod consumers the numbers don't always have to be in order. For example in Html the doesn't require t

Re: Pod::Elemental, a standards-snubbing pod mungler

2008-10-26 Thread Allison Randal
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: I released Pod::Elemental a few days ago, and just write up a blog post about it. I'd be interested in comments from the list, if anybody cares enough to look at it. http://rjbs.manxome.org/rubric/entry/1690 Never let the establishment stand in the way of experimentati

Pod::Simple 3.05 release

2007-03-04 Thread Allison Randal
Yesterday I released Pod::Simple 3.05, a patch catch-up and bug-fix release. Special thanks to Jerry Hedden, Ken Williams, and Christopher Madsen for their patches, to Rafael for pulling together bug reports scattered across several systems, and to James Ponza and the CPAN testers for submittin

Re: podlators/Pod::Simple backwards compatibility

2007-03-03 Thread Allison Randal
Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: There's certainly room to do it better, but I was only attempting to do exactly what Pod::Parser does. blessed won't work for a vanilla globref. I'm specifically not looking to do it exactly like Pod::Parser (Pod::Parser is b0rken), but am looking to provide ne

Re: Pod::Webserver 3.04 pre-release

2006-02-09 Thread Allison Randal
On Feb 9, 2006, at 23:25, Andy Lester wrote: The only alternative I can think of that might make sense is naming them Pod::Webserver::Daemon, Pod::Webserver::Request, etc... I think that makes sense, since you're not really putting them out there to be reused. Change committed. (I was alr

Re: Pod::Webserver 3.04 pre-release

2006-02-09 Thread Allison Randal
On Feb 2, 2006, at 9:46, Nicholas Clark wrote: I wasn't sure if Mock::* was the best name to use. I think it's appropriate, since it really is just mocking a subset of the behaviour of the HTTP::* modules. The only alternative I can think of that might make sense is naming them Pod::Webser

Pod::Webserver 3.04 pre-release

2006-02-01 Thread Allison Randal
I've just applied a patch to Pod::Webserver from Nicholas Clark, based on a concept Nick and Sean discussed a while ago. The patch eliminates the dependency on LWP by mocking (or duplicating) a limited subset of the functionality provided by HTTP::Daemon, HTTP::Request, HTTP::Response, and

Pod::Simple 3.04 released

2006-01-18 Thread Allison Randal
I released Pod::Simple 3.04 today. It includes Steve Peters' test patches for integrating Pod::Simple into the core, Craig Berry's patch for extracting package names on VMS, and the reinit method for supporting backward compatibility features in Pod::Man, etc. Allison

Re: Pod::Man broken in podlators-2.0 creating empty man files

2006-01-11 Thread Allison Randal
On Jan 11, 2006, at 11:49, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: I'll release Pod::Simple 3.04 as soon as you confirm it works (or we fix anything that doesn't work), and as soon as I hear back from Steve on his test patches for including Pod::Simple in the core. Sorry it took me so long to look at

Re: Pod::Man broken in podlators-2.0 creating empty man files

2005-12-17 Thread Allison Randal
On Dec 14, 2005, at 16:22, Russ Allbery wrote: Would you override 'parse_file' and 'parse_from_file' so they call 'reinit'? Potential threading issues there, but a tolerable kludge for backward compatibility. Hm, sure, I can do that. Those are the only two interfaces that older callers of Po

Re: [perl.perl5.porters] Pod::Man broken in podlators-2.0 creating empty man files

2005-12-14 Thread Allison Randal
On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:31, Russ Allbery wrote: I don't think there's really much advantage beyond supporting code that assumed one could reuse an object, but I'm happy to add in a call to reinit so that the old code would continue to work. Would you override 'parse_file' and 'parse_from_fil

Re: [perl.perl5.porters] Pod::Man broken in podlators-2.0 creating empty man files

2005-12-14 Thread Allison Randal
On Dec 13, 2005, at 20:16, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Since it was an undocumented but counted-on interface, I'm not sure how to resolve this, but I wanted to raise the issue here to start discussion about resolution, and also to let y'all know that your man commands will fail magically soon. :)

Re: podlators 2.00 released

2005-12-01 Thread Allison Randal
On Nov 29, 2005, at 17:47, Tels wrote: So, I am now excited that maybe the new maintainer can find some time and insight, and/or I can submit a bugreport about Pod::Simple (yes, I know, slightly unfair of me :) Yup, send me the code and I'll take a look. Bug reports are always happily we

Pod::Simple 3.03

2005-11-21 Thread Allison Randal
I just uploaded Pod::Simple 3.03 to PAUSE. It's a patch catchup release, no major changes. It's also in my public subversion repository: http://svn.lohutok.net/nam/trunk/perl5/modules/Pod/Simple/ Allison

Re: Including POD "modules"

2005-11-19 Thread Allison Randal
On Nov 15, 2005, at 9:40, Gabriel Berriz wrote: I understand this is a FAQ but I have not been able to find the answer: is there a way to include chunks of POD within another POD, something in the same spirit of a C #include? We do this pretty extensively in POD book manuscripts. Particularly