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Would You Trust This Man With a Record Company? 

Christian music iconoclast Steve Taylor finds unexpected mainstream
success 

By Rob Simbeck, photos by Ben Pearson 

Steve Taylor may not be the last person you'd expect the Gaylord
Corporation to entrust with millions of dollars, but he'd have to be
pretty far down the list. True, he has long been a highly visible part of
Christian music. But in an industry concerned with projecting a positive,
upright image, he has been anything but orthodox. A left-of-center
singer, producer, and filmmaker and an unapologetic fan of The Clash and
David Bowie, he has made a lot of people nervous. Over the course of his
long and fertile recording career, he has displayed a wicked satirical
streak, skewering the pomposity, smugness, and self-righteousness of
Christians and non-Christians alike. In fact, his over-the-top rock 'n'
roll stage theatrics and his iconoclastic lyrics once earned the enmity
of famed televangelist Jimmy Swaggart. 

Taylor helped modernize Christian music, transforming it from an often
lame, Sunday school version of pop radio to a genre that can hold its own
with the best of secular music. Along the way, though, he found himself
bound alternately by the expectations of the Christian marketplace and by
the cold, hard politics of the record business. With a deep understanding
of just how hard it is for a musician to succeed, he decided three years
ago to form his own record company--a company where he could do things
differently. Squint Entertainment is his ultimate act of rebellion, the
hacksaw with which he aims to cut through corporate shackles. The fact
that he's operating under the umbrella of the Gaylord Corporation, a
company not often identified with innovation, is intriguing, to say the
least. If his enterprise works, it could help change the way Nashville
makes music. And so far, it's working pretty well, thank you. 

"I would have to say honestly that picturing him as a label executive was
not within my realm of capability," says Neal Joseph, former head of
Warner Alliance, the label that released Taylor's last solo record.
"[It's not strange] that someone would give him the opportunity, but that
he would take it. By its nature, heading a label has some corporate
structure to it, and Steve is not one who likes to function within a
corporate structure." 

Yet here he is, with a desk in a nice fifth-floor office overlooking West
End Avenue. Of late, things at Squint have been going swimmingly: The
label has scored that rarest of coups--a hit pop single from Nashville,
by Sixpence None the Richer. The group's single "Kiss Me" is now sitting
in the Top 5 of Billboard's Pop Singles Chart, while its eponymously
titled album has shipped 400,000 units. The video for "Kiss Me"--shot by
Taylor for $50,000, a mere fraction of a normal rock video budget--has
received significant airplay on VH1. 

And that's only one of Taylor's successes: The Insyders' Squint LP
Skaleluia is the only record ever to hit No. 1 on both Soundscan's
Rock/Alternative chart and its Praise and Worship chart. Burlap to
Cashmere, another Squint group, peaked at No. 10 on the Soundscan
Christian music sales chart. Both groups' albums have sold nearly 100,000
copies. His next big project is Chevelle, a Detroit rock trio inspired by
such heavy alternarock bands as Tool and Nirvana. The group is being
produced by Steve Albini, an underground rock musician who has found
major-league success as producer for Page and Plant, Bush, Nirvana, and
PJ Harvey. 


What makes Taylor such an interesting figure isn't his surprising
success--it's his wariness of the very music industry he's working in.
"The modern recording contract has become like the tax code," he says
firmly. "I think it should be thrown out and started over from scratch.
It can't be fixed." 

Taylor has long been troubled by the business side of music, so he has
decided to lead by example, dealing fairly and honestly with the
musicians on Squint's roster. Sixpence None the Richer is a perfect
example: The group's album, which is doing so remarkably well, was
released in November 1997--a full year-and-a-half ago. Most other labels
would have long ago lost interest in such a project, preferring to write
off their losses and move on in search of the next big thing. 

But since Taylor is himself an artist, he follows a different set of
guidelines. For starters, he says, "I want to sign people I like and
trust. If I don't like hanging out with them, this is not going to be fun
in five years." His other prerequisite is contractual fairness, something
that falls squarely on his shoulders. "I don't want a scenario where you
spend all this time developing trust, and then when it's time to make a
deal, you turn it over to the lawyers to fight it out. Modern record
deals have become an exercise in bad faith. I don't believe in taking
advantage of new artists by offering them lowball deals." 

Putting this concept to the corporate suits, he says, "left them sort of
bewildered, not because they're not trying to be fair with artists, but
because they've never been artists, having to live off royalties that
come every six months. I think it's hard for businesspeople to grasp what
it's like to be a musician, and how difficult it is to make any kind of
living at that. It's not like I've reinvented the wheel by starting
Squint, but hopefully we're tipping the scales toward respecting the
artists' best interests." 

It's this concern for the person on the other side of the handshake or
the microphone--or, for that matter, the dinner table--that makes Taylor
one of the most genuinely loved people in an industry where niceness
isn't always at a premium. 

Indeed, people love Steve Taylor. Their comments, almost to a person, are
typified by those of Barry Landis, formerly Warner Alliance's marketing
VP, who now runs Atlantic's Christian label: "Steve Taylor is the most
creative, honest, and honorable person in the entire industry." 





Roland Stephen Taylor's earliest memories are of a family caravan from
Southern California, where he was born, through Mexico. He was 4 or 5,
traveling with his parents (his dad is a Baptist minister), grandparents,
an aunt and uncle, and two cousins. They arrived at the Guatemalan border
in their three vehicles and decided, at the last minute, to keep going.
They talked their way, without visas, all the way to Panama, where they
sold their cars, flew to Florida, bought new cars, and drove back home. 

"I can tell you very little about the rest of my first 5 years, but I
remember that trip vividly," he says. "I remember my mother dressing the
wound of a kid who had just taken a chunk out of his foot with a machete;
pulling off the road to stop at a swimming hole; picking up a German
hitchhiker for a few days; and holding my dad's hand and leaning over the
edge of an active volcano in Costa Rica." 

That trip gave him a love of travel and a lifelong penchant for pushing
boundaries. As a youth minister in his father's church, he and his young
charges were booted from the Denver airport when their game of "capture
the flag" got too exuberant. Recently, when he and Sixpence were working
on their Francois Truffaut-inspired video for "Kiss Me" in the Paris
cemetery where Truffaut is buried, they were told they couldn't film
there. They smuggled in the equipment and filmed anyway. "We did have
permission from Truffaut's family," he adds sheepishly. 

Taylor says his parents were "pretty conservative"--he wasn't allowed to
listen to pop radio until his mid-teens--but "also very consistent
between what they said and the way they lived," he recalls. "I got to
high school, and there was that sense of, `Now's the time to start
rebelling,' but I didn't know what I was supposed to be rebelling
against. I think a lot of kids rebel against hypocrisy, and I hadn't seen
a lot of hypocrisy in my parents." 

He played trombone, did a little acting, and played bass in bands, which
his close friend and then-bandmate Dale Fenton remembers as "really,
really bad. Steve had been listening to things like the Cowsills, which I
thought was pretty nerdy music, so I take credit for leading him toward
things that were a little more happening. It wasn't long before he was
really showing me up in that area. He was always listening to whatever
was new and different." 

During a year at Biola College in Southern California, he found himself
starting to question his beliefs. He worked through his crisis of faith,
but the embers of that internal debate still flare occasionally. Indeed,
it's clear that this willingness to confront his own values has informed
everything he's done in the years since. In the end, it has made his
dedication as a Christian artist all the more compelling to his
listeners, be they Christian or not. 

"Every once in a while, I jab a little [at those questions]," he says,
"but the times when I sort of doubt about why we're here and if there
really is a God are balanced out by the fact that it honestly seems like
this is the only way to live that makes sense to me. The idea that we're
here by chance is horrifying for one, and it seems like if you take that
to its conclusion, who would want to live in that world?" 

Taylor's commitment to Christianity has led to both classically
conservative and classically liberal stances. He has gone after abortion,
clinic bombings, racism and Apartheid, even the hero-worship that
attended Oliver North. There's no rule, however, that says rampant
creativity and devout beliefs are mutually exclusive. Nor does his faith,
as Jimmy Swaggart and others would suggest, proscribe rock music. 

Like many other college kids of his era, he was drawn to punk and new
wave music. "The Clash were far and away the biggest influence," he says.
"I really liked the fact that when they got together they couldn't really
play their instruments. I was a music major, and I was pretty good at
composition and theory, but I was having the hardest time passing piano
proficiency. And then there were the lyrics. They were great with the
turn of a phrase, and they were so passionate about what they were
singing." 

But Taylor wasn't just inspired by bands like The Clash--he was
challenged by them. "What was interesting was that The Clash and Sex
Pistols were great at pointing out all the problems of the world, but
they were short on solutions. So I figured, `Well, if I'm a Christian, I
think I know absolute truth--why would I not want to write songs with
that same kind of conviction, and yet offer some hope?' " 

After a year, he transferred to the University of Colorado, which had a
fledgling film department. He learned some technical basics and made a
couple of earnest if uneven films, including one based on a true story in
which a couple tried to trade their baby for a car. Ultimately, he would
recognize both music and film as callings. 


In the early '80s, Christian music simply wasn't prepared for Steve
Taylor. Much of the genre consisted of what current Gospel Music
Association (GMA) president Frank Breeden calls "Sunday school lessons
set to music." If country needed Waylon and Willie to help make it hip
for hippies, Christian music needed Steve to help make it speak to new
wavers and modern rockers. 

He began recording demos and peddling them in L.A. "I thought it was
ironic," he says. "The mainstream labels, when I was able to get in,
said, `Your music is interesting, but your lyrics would offend our
listeners.' The Christian labels said, `We don't like your music, and
your lyrics would offend our listeners.' The future didn't look very
bright." 

He went back to Denver and kept at it. In 1982, he was invited to perform
at the annual Christian Artists Retreat, a Christian music confab in
Estes Park, Colo. Taylor cobbled together a band from the studio
musicians who'd played on his demo. Thanks in part to his song "I Want to
Be a Clone"--an indictment of Christian conformity that received a
standing ovation--his first real gig was a runaway success. 

Sparrow Records founder and then-president Billy Ray Hearn was one of the
people in the audience. "He was awesome," Hearn remembers. "He was so
fresh--different from anything I'd ever seen." More important, though,
Hearn asserts, "I knew he was the kind of person I would like to have on
the label. The quality of him as a Christian and as a person was to me as
good as his talent." 

That didn't mean the music would be an easy sell. "He's a creative
genius," Hearn says, "but he was so far out of the mainstream of what
Christian music was that I wasn't sure we could sell a full album of him.
So we did a six-song EP." He pauses and shakes his head. 

"That thing sold like hotcakes." 


Fans of Steve Taylor say that he has always made really great music. But
looking back over his career, it's clear that his creative growth has
been remarkable. That first EP, I Want to Be a Clone, was a modest debut
to be sure, recorded in nine days for $7,000. It was musically tentative
in spots, but it was clearly the work of a compelling new voice. The
songs went after humanism, religious leaders who use scripture to defend
abortion, lying politicians, hipness, and hedonism. Reaction was
immediate. 

When Sparrow followed that up with a full-length LP, Meltdown, Taylor was
off and running. He quickly established himself as a manic, almost
spastic performer, as interesting visually as he was musically. His shows
were "kind of half a play and half rock band," remembers drummer Cactus
Moser. "It was fairly courageous in the face of the rest of the Christian
music business. He was wearing makeup and stuff, and it was just too much
for some places. There would occasionally be people in the lobbies
picketing or praying. They just thought it was too bizarre. It wasn't
like a gospel quartet. It was like David Bowie." 

His approach hardly endeared him to right-wing Christians. Jimmy
Swaggart, before his own voyeuristic motel dalliances clipped his wings,
said Steve's music had "no Jesus, no God, no nothing." The Rev. Bob Jones
called him a "satanic influence upon the lives of young people." 

Kids, meanwhile, loved him. He became a favorite on the campuses of
Christian universities. Meltdown sold over 150,000 copies, a terrific
figure for the genre. With each successive record, Taylor continued to
build an audience and expand his own capabilities as a songwriter and
musician. 

In the process, he became a key player in bringing Christian music,
sometimes kicking and screaming, into the modern musical world and the
modern marketplace. It's not always a comfortable role: Amy Grant sold
millions of records and hit the top of the charts. Along the way, though,
she caught flack for fuzzing up the message, for singing of love that
might have been for Jesus but might just as well have been about a
flesh-and-blood guy. 

But Grant did manage to cross over successfully, and she gained more fans
than she lost. "She was very pop-oriented, and her records were aimed at
the general market," Hearn observes. "She wasn't breaking new ground
musically. And she's a very lovely person. You take a weird guy like
Taylor--all bones and skin--and you've got to have something different
going for you." 

For Taylor, that something different was pure creative ambition. Wanting
to make better, more adventuresome records, he took some daring steps on
his 1987 album I Predict 1990. In particular, he got flak from both sides
about "I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good," a song that aimed its barbed
irony at the right-wing lunatic fringe. Taylor might have been a
dedicated pro-lifer, but he abhorred the extremism of those who would
threaten human lives in their crusade to save unborn children. 

Trouble was, a lot of people didn't get it; they thought he was
advocating clinic bombings. His entire Australian tour was canceled as a
result. Around the same time, Taylor got a call from a woman who ran an
abortion clinic in Southern California. "She was so furious," he says. "I
asked her, `Have you listened to the lyrics?' She said she didn't need
to. I didn't even bother telling her what I thought about her job." In
retrospect, he says, he regrets doing the song. 

In the midst of all this controversy, Taylor looked around and saw
Christians retrenching. Popular contemporary Christian musicians like
Russ Taff and Michael W. Smith had started making "back home where I
belong" records. 

"The industry was in a very strange place," says Lynn Nichols, former
head of Myrrh Records, Taylor's label at the time. "That was around the
time when the PTL Club exploded, and things got very conservative. The
creative ceiling was lowering. Steve was feeling it, as I was, running a
label. It was a risky time." 

It became clear that Christians were looking for more reassuring music,
and Taylor didn't have such an album in him. At the end of his tour for I
Predict 1990, he announced that he was retiring from his solo career.
"There was no bitterness," he says. "It just felt like a season had come
and gone. I had sort of hit a glass ceiling, and the choice was either do
another album that was more geared toward the Church, and was musically
more accessible, or just do something else." 


Taylor decided to do something else--but it wasn't long before he was
drawn back to music. This time around, though, he decided to play in a
band, Chagall Guevara, with Nichols, Dave Perkins (who coproduced 1990),
bassist Wade Jaynes, and drummer Mike Mead. They moved to Nashville,
where Perkins had a studio. In retrospect, the project was doomed from
the start. The first mistake was the name, which few people could
pronounce and even fewer understood. 

The second mistake was signing with MCA Records. "It was every band's
worst nightmare," says Theresa Ensenat, who was MCA's vice-president of
A&R in the early '90s. The label was changing hands, and the band quickly
found itself struggling for attention. The people who had brought them
aboard began diving for the exits. Label support was fitful in the States
and nonexistent in England, where Taylor had a huge cult following.
Through it all, he maintained what could only be called a Christian
attitude. 

"When the label started letting them down," says Gerd Muller, the band's
publisher at the time, "Steve always had positive energy, and he was the
one who came to the office to make copies and help with mailings." 

"He wasn't whiny," Ensenat says. "It was always, `Well, then, why don't
we try to do this?' He didn't live in the setbacks." Amazingly enough,
MCA wanted another record, but the disgusted band members chose to
dissolve. 

After the fallout from Chagall Guevara's deal with MCA, Taylor signed
with Warner Alliance in 1993. The resulting album, Squint, was arguably
his best. When Warner Alliance offered him $60,000 for a video budget, he
decided to use the money for an around-the-world trip. For decades, he
had been saving magazine clippings of places he thought might be
interesting to visit. So he and friend Ben Pearson bought a 35mm movie
camera and, with soundman Russ Long and road manager Mark Hollingsworth,
took off for Hong Kong. For $16,000, the four of them could go basically
anywhere they wanted, so long as they kept moving west. They filmed in
Vietnam, Katmandu, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, and the British
Isles. The finished product, Movies From the Soundtrack, was awash in
gorgeous color, a witty, sometimes kaleidoscopic treatment of Taylor's
music. 




"That was the most fun of any project I've ever done," Taylor says. "It
was a real adventure, and there was a sense of trying something really
new." Steve and label head/executive producer Neal Joseph took the
project to Barry Landis, Warner Alliance's head of marketing. Landis had
never come across anything like it, and it didn't take long for him to
became a huge Steve Taylor fan. "Like all truly creative people," he
says, "Steve was leading when the rest of us were trying to follow.
There's an old saying: Talent does what it can; genius does what it
must." 

Critics loved it. The industry loved it. But the album didn't really go
anywhere. As Landis puts it, "Where artistry is moving and where
commercialism is moving aren't always hand in glove." 

Taylor admits that Warner Alliance's failure with Squint is partially
what pushed him to become a record label head. "There's nothing more
frustrating--and this happened with Chagall Guevara too--than knowing in
your gut that you finally got it right, and it just doesn't happen. A lot
of it was realizing how the record business works. There are so many dots
that have to be connected...that the odds are pretty stacked against you.


"I got to thinking, `If I got the chance to do it again, how would I do
it?' 

"With Squint, we decided, `Let's have the buck stop with us, so our
artists don't have to go through the same frustration. Sixpence's success
is an obvious example of how the odds are stacked against you, but that
if you stick with something you believe is really good, it can work." 


Gaylord Entertainment, the Oklahoma-based corporation that owns the
Opryland Hotel, the Wildhorse Saloon, and that monument-in-progress to
conspicuous consumption, Opry Mills, got into the music business through
its purchase of the Opry-related businesses. The firm bought Word Music,
one of Christian music's biggest labels, in 1997, and owns Myrrh Records
as well. It was one of several entities Taylor approached with his idea
for a music and film company. 

He had the support of Jim Chaffee, the head of Myrrh; Loren Balman, the
head of Word; and Roland Lundy, the COO of Idea Entertainment, the
umbrella under which Squint and Word both function. Even though record
sales have been down overall in the last couple of years, it wasn't a bad
time to go looking for money: Sales of Christian music have been rising
20 percent every year for the last decade. 

In many ways, Steve Taylor is the perfect person to run a label. He
brings to Squint much more than his experience as a recording artist.
During his time at Warner Alliance, he worked on a lot of outside
projects, both as a record producer and as a video producer. His
production of the Newsboys helped turn the young Australian group into a
real force and further cemented Taylor's role as someone eager to expand
Christian music's sensibilities. And even if he avers that he has no
business sense, it's clear that he is used to working within tight
budgets. 

"I'm a really big believer that too much money kills creativity," he
says, "although I'd like to be able to find out some time." 

He's also used to getting the most from the people around him. "He's
great at encouraging creativity," Russ Long says. "He really encourages
everybody to experiment to their full capacity. Although he's in control,
he makes it very clear up front that he's open to any idea." 

When he entered negotiations with Gaylord, Taylor wanted to make sure
that he'd have the elbow room he needed to run a business. "In a lot of
the meetings," he says, "I would almost lead with the hardest part,
painting the worst picture possible just to see what they were made of.
It was going to be expensive and risky, and the model was going to be
different. 

"I also said, `I've been working on this film.' I figured now was as good
a time as any, so I said, `If you want to do the music, you've got to
fund this movie too.' I was really raising the bar, making it hard for
anybody to say yes." 

But Gaylord said yes anyway. 

"To their credit," Joseph says, "I think they've set up a really good
position for him, a good scenario, and he has the freedom to do what he
wants to do." 

Taylor decided to call his company Squint after a line from one of his
songs, "The Finish Line": "As you squint with the light of the truth in
your eyes." He oversees operations from Nashville, and his friend and
partner Stephen Prendergast heads up the label's L.A. branch. 

True to his unassuming nature, Taylor credits his staff with much of the
firm's early success. "We've got an extraordinary group of people," he
says. "The people on the staff were the heroes on this Sixpence project.
And the people at Word and Gaylord were really honorable in sticking this
out over the long haul. We were losing a lot of money last year." 


Sixpence None the Richer represent a conundrum that has cropped up
repeatedly ever since Steve Taylor helped to revolutionize Christian
music: Are they, in fact, making Christian music? The members of Sixpence
are up-front about their Christianity, but their songs don't blatantly
preach the gospel. They're simply a band making the best music they can.
Rather than writing lyrics heavy on dogma or pieties, they come at it
from the opposite direction: The members draw subject matter from their
lives, which are guided and informed by their Christian faith. 

When the group's last label collapsed a couple of years ago, Sixpence
found themselves searching for a new record company. Their choice was
strongly affected by the very question of how they should position
themselves. "Sixpence weren't comfortable going with a Christian label
because they didn't think there was a Christian label that would
understand the depth and breadth of what they were doing," says Taylor,
who knew the band from its work on a Taylor tribute LP, I Predict a
Clone. "And they didn't feel a mainstream company would understand that
they weren't doing this to become rich and famous--that they had a
broader goal in mind. The songs they write, they write for a very
specific reason." 

The Christian/secular debate continues to smolder. "Kiss Me" was under
initial consideration for a Dove Award, but the GMA determined that the
song didn't meet the proper subject-matter criteria--something that
happened to Amy Grant more than a decade ago. It was simply in a
"different marketplace," according to GMA president Frank Breeden. (It is
interesting, though, that the Christian music industry's own sales
figures include Sixpence, as well as projects like LeAnn Rimes' You Light
Up My Life LP.) 

Ask Taylor if Squint is a Christian label, and he ducks the question.
"We're simply trying to put out good music," he says. "If you call
something Christian, there are so many people who think they know what it
is before they ever listen to it. You're always in a defensive posture. 

"It's why with Sixpence, we just tried to let the music lead." 

Not too long ago, that was a radical notion in Christian music. If it's
not so radical today, Steve Taylor is one reason why. 


Many people in the music industry think Taylor could very well change the
way people do business. "He's a quality person with great ideas," says
his old label chief, Billy Ray Hearn, "and he knows how to go beyond the
boundaries of what we're all thinking now. I think he's right where he
needs to be." 

Barry Landis thought Squint made sense all along. "I really did expect
that he would end up heading a label," he says, "and I think he's going
to be very successful at it. There's no ego there. He got as much
enjoyment behind the scenes, writing or producing somebody, as he did as
an artist. I can well imagine a scenario where we'll all be following his
lead." 

But the thing that makes Steve Taylor such a rare individual is that for
all of his energy and creativity, people just love him for who he is.
Perhaps because of his strong adherence to principles, at some point, all
talk of Taylor eventually comes back to the personal. 

"The fact that he's a great songwriter and a great director and a great
artist and a great producer is all just icing on the cake," Long says.
"More than anything, he's a man of integrity. It's great working with
somebody you can look up to and really try to model yourself after." 

At the moment, the personal and the professional have converged to
provide an unparalleled model for success not just in the Christian music
industry, but in the music industry as a whole. If anything, though,
Taylor is anxious to get back to work on his film project, Saint Gimp.
The only problem is, he can't find the time. 

"The one thing I hadn't figured on," he says, "is that, particularly with
Sixpence and the other things going on, there's just so much to take care
of, and with success has come more stress, not less." 

He finds, in fact, that he has to leave town for a week or so to get any
real work done. "I'd like to see the music part slow down a little so he
can work on the film," his wife Debbie says. "When he's in creative mode,
he's doing what he loves most, and what he's most suited for." 

Even so, it's very clear that Taylor is perfectly suited to running a
label. He might not do things the way other execs do, but that's
precisely why it's so important that he spend as much time behind his
desk as he does behind a mixing board or a video camera. It's a tough
balancing act, but there are an awful lot of people wishing him well.
That's more than you can say for most of the folks in the music business.

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