Re: OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread Michael J Wise
SORBS is very good at detecting stale lists, typo domains, and ... abusers using your service. I'd prefer to not use it as a block, but certainly an advice for filtering. If you're the only one using an IP that got listed in SORBS, you need to seriously rethink how often you are mailing your

Re: OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread Brett Maxfield
sorbs is not always a consistent organization, both listing and delisting can be chaotic, i don't think they have a policy based system, it has in the past been based on reporting that is vetted only sporadically, you'd think mozilla would only use dnsbl from larger organisations with a policy

Re: OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 6/17/2016 10:05 AM, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > [mozilla.org using SORBS as a veto] > > Looks like they disabled SORBS. > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1280451#c5 Yes, thankfully he reconsidered after I begged... Thanks,

Re: Cannot connect to postfix

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Lydiate
Thank you all, I figured it out, but wouldn't have without your ideas. It wasn't a postfix problem. It was the system network cards. When I got that worked out, it seems like mail works just fine, as long as I remember to use ssl/tls. So now I need to ask one of my users to try from their end.

Re: OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread lists
‎Reading the bug report, I see they have temporarily dropped SORBS. When I set up my email server, SORBS turned out to be useless because of false positives.  I see Dreamhost will give you a unique IP for $6. Kind of pricey considering a VPS from Digital Ocean and a few others can be had for

Re: OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread Wietse Venema
[mozilla.org using SORBS as a veto] Looks like they disabled SORBS. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1280451#c5 Wietse

OT: dnsbl.sorbs.net - help explaining to Mozilla list maintainers why outright blocking is bad

2016-06-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I've been experiencing and on/off again problem with my shared dreamhost account IP block getting listed by SORBS. The only reason I know this is because apparently the Mozilla list maintainers have configured all of the Mozilla discussion lists to outright BLOCK based on being listed by