Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Bill Cole: > There's no need to watch, if you can imagine what it would look like > from the description in the specification of how to include non-existent > headers in a signature. I'm aware of RFC 4871 section 5.4. "The From header field MUST be signed", so here's where signing non-existin

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Bill Cole
On 20 Apr 2019, at 6:38, Ralph Seichter wrote: Signing a non-existing (!) header. Right. Mind if I watch? :-) There's no need to watch, if you can imagine what it would look like from the description in the specification of how to include non-existent headers in a signature. The purpose of

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread TG Servers
On 20/04/2019 14:59, Richard Damon wrote: > On 4/20/19 8:08 AM, Reto wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 07:31:06AM -0400, Richard Damon wrote: >>> Where the issue comes is with DMARC, which restricts the DKIM protocol >>> to be aligned with the From line of the message, and thus the MLM can't >>>

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Richard Damon
On 4/20/19 8:08 AM, Reto wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 07:31:06AM -0400, Richard Damon wrote: >> Where the issue comes is with DMARC, which restricts the DKIM protocol >> to be aligned with the From line of the message, and thus the MLM can't >> make the message pass the DMARC settings of the se

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Reto
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 07:31:06AM -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > Where the issue comes is with DMARC, which restricts the DKIM protocol > to be aligned with the From line of the message, and thus the MLM can't > make the message pass the DMARC settings of the sending domain. It is > DMARC which bre

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Richard Damon
On 4/19/19 11:22 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > On 19 Apr 2019, at 22:50, Richard Damon wrote: > >> Note also, these RFCs are just Standards Track, which says that they are >> not yet 'full standards' but still evolving, and I believe that one of >> the issues that needs to be worked out is to figure out h

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Ralph Seichter
* Peter: > Granted in this particular case, and given what Sender is for, it > probably shouldn't be signed if it's not present, but the RFC does not > make that explicitly clear, and I would not hold someone at fault for > signing the Sender header based on what that RFC says. Signing a non-e

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread TG Servers
Dominic, you should get the mails now, don't you? On 20 April 2019 12:04:30 Dominic Raferd wrote: On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 14:11, Benny Pedersen wrote: i have now disabled milters from trusted maillists ips How did you do this? It might help me. I have missed some of this thread because OP'

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 at 11:18, TG Servers wrote: > > Dominic, you should get the mails now, don't you? > > On 20 April 2019 12:04:30 Dominic Raferd wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 14:11, Benny Pedersen wrote: >> >>> i have now disabled milters from trusted maillists ips >>> >> >> How did you

Re: Big problem with this mailing list and Majordomo regarding DMARC

2019-04-20 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 14:11, Benny Pedersen wrote: > i have now disabled milters from trusted maillists ips > How did you do this? It might help me. I have missed some of this thread because OP's mails are blocked (correctly of course) by my opendmarc.