Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 08:39:24AM CET, Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com said: Hi, I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail server and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty envelope From set (from=) . I'm using relayhost and when

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
From: Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 9:05:43 AM Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 08:39:24AM CET, Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com said: Hi, I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Tokarev
07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: [] yes I know but I'm not in charge of realyhost and they (who are in charge) told me that they don't accept empty From. Could I somehow change From to some kind of black hole which will discard all the mails? Postfix tries hard to conform to

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
From: Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru To: Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:08:04 AM Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce 07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: [] yes I know but I'm not in charge of realyhost

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com: Could some post the except from standard where this is defined to be able to argue with relayhost provider, please? This is all best summed up by section 5.2.9 of RFC1123, which says: The syntax shown in RFC-821 for the MAIL FROM: command omits the case of

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Trigve Siver
From: Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:37:20 AM Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce This is all best summed up by section 5.2.9 of RFC1123, which says: The syntax shown in RFC-821 for the MAIL FROM

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com: ... Since in most cases it is not appropriate to respond to an automatic response, and the responder is not interested in delivery status messages, a MAIL FROM address of MAY be used for this purpose. A MAIL FROM address which is specifically

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Wietse Venema
Trigve Siver: Thanks for reply. Could some post the except from standard where this is defined to be able to argue with relayhost provider, please? RFC 5321 is the current SMTP definition. 6.1. Reliable Delivery and Replies by Email ... If there is a delivery failure after

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-12-07 2:39 AM, Trigve Siver wrote: Hi, I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail server and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty envelope From set (from=) . I'm using relayhost and when sending bounce back I've got

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Trigve Siver wrote: From: Michael Tokarev m...@tls.msk.ru To: Trigve Siver trig...@yahoo.com Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 10:08:04 AM Subject: Re: Empty From when generating bounce 07.12.2010 11:21, Trigve Siver wrote: [] yes I know but I'm not in charge

Re: Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-07 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 04:39:53PM -0500, Randy Ramsdell wrote: Beating a dead horse, but I would use a relay where the admins do not know the standards. The admins of that server should delegate duties to someone else. Perhaps the relay is really an MSA for home MUA users and is not

Empty From when generating bounce

2010-12-06 Thread Trigve Siver
Hi, I'm having some problem with bounces. When someone send mail to my mail server and sender is not existent, postfix generate bounce. Bounce has empty envelope From set (from=) . I'm using relayhost and when sending bounce back I've got error that From shouldn't be empty/invalid (I think it